The Sandman

Enjoyable enough show. An interesting story well told I thought. The diner episode was probably my favorite, it was delivering a strong message - telegraphed somewhat by the previous (Lucifer) episode.

wasn’t 1 black guy a demon? So he wasn’t evil I guess, but his demon was ? But wasn’t the demon black? I’m grasping at straws here, but I think there were 1-2 not perfect colored folk / colored demon

For woke content, I thought it did pretty well. I mean I kinda went into it expecting a kinda David Bowie, Boy George, and Robert Smith music video amalgamation.. with sprinkles of Reinassance and Romanticism in a 1980s fantasy concept.. and it more or less delivered.

Death was fine, but honestly.. like please can I for once have my wednesday or lydia? It's domino again, where the performance is fine; but I want my pasty white bitch. and genderswapped Constantine didn't really deliver that down-and-out self-deprecating almost nihilistic Constantine that I understand.. not enough 5 o'clock shadow cigarettes n coffee.


I'm pretty sure all the demons were black, aside from maybe the tourguide.. he kinda looked like the one body builder guy akin to the mountain

Really liked episodes 5 and 6, the diner and tavern ones. The rest, meh.

I also liked the casting of Morphius, the Corinthian, and Death. Could have used more of her. Thought she was a good balance for the dream dude.

Probably not interested enough to watch a season 2. Was just curious, so I pumped this one out to see where it went.

gauze said:

and genderswapped Constantine didn't really deliver that down-and-out self-deprecating almost nihilistic Constantine that I understand.. not enough 5 o'clock shadow cigarettes n coffee.

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This one made the most sense tho, assuming they wanted to keep that character a Constantine. They couldn't use John cause WB owns him still (just like Martian Manhunter didnt help dream find his Ruby), and Joanna is both a descendant and ancestor in the Constantine line from John. I'm happier with her than some dude showing up being named Jim Constantine who clean shaven and vaped or something.

They dropped Episode 11 as a surprise. Checking it out today.

iabs said:

Yeah this series really went full retard on the woke agenda.

Blatant depiction of white males exclusively being evil. The Corinthian, the collectors, the two guys in the back alley.

The rest of white males were either gay or incompetent, including the sandman himself who apparently doesn't know how to run his kingdom without the wise black woman librarian or understands his purpose (after eons of existence) without the wise guidance of his sister death, also a black woman.

They really went out guns blazing in this one.

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Except for the race/gender swaps that pretty much is the story from the comics. Morpheus binds himself to old rules and traditions and is unable to change with the rest of the universe. Gaiman was bleeding edge all in for gays and trannies back in the 90s. Shit, I bet you could trace back a lot of the bullshit about being gender fluid to Sandman, as it was one of the first "mainstream" stories that featured it so prominently.

Angerz said:

This one made the most sense tho, assuming they wanted to keep that character a Constantine. They couldn't use John cause WB owns him still (just like Martian Manhunter didnt help dream find his Ruby), and Joanna is both a descendant and ancestor in the Constantine line from John. I'm happier with her than some dude showing up being named Jim Constantine who clean shaven and vaped or something.

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That would definitely be awful, wasn't entirely aware of the WB thing.. I don't feel it was unbearable, and if it were the only option; helps.. I just felt the performance didn't really sell me what I expected out of a John Constantine character.. it definitely felt to me, a weaker thread in the series. The visuals were fine, just maybe like one of those situations where she came off more naggy/whiney.. but I guess I'm sexist or w/e cause I couldn't see it as equal rofl.

I think Constantine was miscast in the same way Captain Marvel was. Not bad actors, I just don't find the portrayals appealing. I liked the Corinthian more than Constantine, and he's supposed to be a villain.

Sanrith Descartes said:

Its the same as Lucifer. Poorly miscast. Lucifer is charismatic. Brienne of Tarth is not exactly the Queen of Charisma. That role juat wasnt for her.

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I would be instantly moist if they reshot that with Tom Ellis.

i picked up digital copies of the comics last week, the deluxe vols are cheap (or free if you pirate em). it does feel like a series that is way, way better in actual paper TPB form though, digital just doesn't feel right for a mythical type of story like this.

anyways pretty fun to read and its interesting seeing the differences between the show and the comics, really just a ton of small differences that add up. Lotta fucking comics too.

This bonus cat shit is absurd lol?

Anyway enjoyed the main plot. Best episodes were Cereal Convention and the guy who chose to live forever. Every episode had some good stuff though.

Yeah a few miscasts, but Death, Corinthian, and Lucienne were great. Also grandma's solicitor was like a dude from Downton Abbey. Great to see Tywin Lannister in anything as well.

spronk said:

i picked up digital copies of the comics last week, the deluxe vols are cheap (or free if you pirate em). it does feel like a series that is way, way better in actual paper TPB form though, digital just doesn't feel right for a mythical type of story like this.

anyways pretty fun to read and its interesting seeing the differences between the show and the comics, really just a ton of small differences that add up. Lotta fucking comics too.

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I bought the absolute editions a few years ago. Zero regrets.

Shmoopy said:

This bonus cat shit is absurd lol?

Anyway enjoyed the main plot. Best episodes were Cereal Convention and the guy who chose to live forever. Every episode had some good stuff though.

Yeah a few miscasts, but Death, Corinthian, and Lucienne were great. Also grandma's solicitor was like a dude from Downton Abbey. Great to see Tywin Lannister in anything as well.

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1000 cats is in the comics, Chekov's gun.