The Tanoubliette: Pussy Hurt and Delusions or TTPHAD for short.

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a_skeleton_03

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9.) Warnings on this forum will always have a public note on the actual offending thread explaining what the decision was. This will be duplicated in the moderator sub forum. Any warning can be appealed and a majority decision on the moderation team will be needed to overturn a warning. The process will be to report your own post that you were warned for and then wait for an answer.

Can't follow basic protocols.
 

Mario Speedwagon

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That's the way I see it, too. This was completely "mod knows best."

I there should be an attempt to actually specify what shitposting or derailing is and make it into an infractable rule. Anytime Tanoomba makes an argument, there's many more people responding to him and/or bringing up old arguments (which Tanoomba does as well). If he doesn't respond to everyone, he gets called evasive. If he responds to everyone, he's accused of derailing the thread. I think responding to everyone who made a comment/post towards you is not, by itself, something to be warned about. Is being obtuse infractable? Repeatedly obtuse? As it stands, none of the above are rule violations.
I think it's a waste of time and detrimental to try and set hard rules for conversations like that. It's always going to be a judgement call on what intractable shitposting is regardless of how many rules you make.

My main problems with the Tanoomba RRP is that there was no report, mods were actively engaged in the conversation that lead to the RRP, and no "official" warning infraction was handed out prior to a 3 point infraction being given.

As far as I'm concerned, waiting for a report, letting amod decide action based on that report, and an appeals process is plenty sufficient without trying to write a conversation flow law book.
 
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If Mario voted not to overturn it but then now is in this thread saying he disagreed with how it went down, I want to know about it, a_skeleton_03 can you look and see how he voted?
I did vote not to overturn it. I also stated the same thing in the original report tanoomba made for an appeal.
 

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If Mario voted not to overturn it but then now is in this thread saying he disagreed with how it went down, I want to know about it, a_skeleton_03 can you look and see how he voted?
I can't (the db could show me but not my skill set) and would not look.

You are misunderstanding the difference.

Should we overturn the RRP?
Was the RRP done correctly?

Two different issues, none of you like Tanoomba so you voted to not overturn it but several of you agree it was done incorrectly and should not have happened.

So stop doing things incorrectly putting you in situations that are indefensible.

No report, not illegal, no warning.

When you give a warning follow the process. Public note on the post, message to the user, and 1 point per post.
 
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I did vote not to overturn it. I also stated the same thing in the original report tanoomba made for an appeal.

I actually do think he probably should have gotten at least one infraction first before straight to RRP but I'm 99% sure he would have ended up there anyways so I don't really care. I'm pretty sure it's what he actually wants to happen.

Thats what you said in the report function... so now do you disagree with how the RRP went down, publicly? Thats pretty fucking slimy bro.
 

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Tanoombas favorite thing : Split hairs.
ITT: All the staff splitting hairs for him.

Why are you all dancing to his tune?
 
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I think it's a waste of time and detrimental to try and set hard rules for conversations like that. It's always going to be a judgement call on what intractable shitposting is regardless of how many rules you make.

My main problems with the Tanoomba RRP is that there was no report, mods were actively engaged in the conversation that lead to the RRP, and no "official" warning infraction was handed out prior to a 3 point infraction being given.

As far as I'm concerned, waiting for a report, letting amod decide action based on that report, and an appeals process is plenty sufficient without trying to write a conversation flow law book.
Very correct. If you are browsing the forum as a moderator and don't like it report it. Then let the other moderators make that call.

You guys know I reported a post or two. I did that on purpose because maybe I was wrong. If you agreed there would be a paper trail in the logs.
 
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Thats what you said in the report function... so now do you disagree with how the RRP went down, publicly? Thats pretty fucking slimy bro.
I don't understand how stating my opinion is slimy. My posts now and my comment on the report are entirely consistent.
 

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What he is saying there is not different.

It is different because now he is trying to be all hero of the people anti-moderation, but when it went down he didn't care, and voted to keep the RRP intact.

If he's going to publicly say "I didn't agree with how this went down" he also needs to make clear that he voted for it, he mocked Tanoomba at the time, and he told us at the time that he "didn't care and thought thats where he would end up anyway"

Leaving off all that extra info makes it sound like he was against this when he wasn't.

Thats why its different.
 

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Tanoombas favorite thing : Split hairs.
ITT: All the staff splitting hairs for him.

Why are you all dancing to his tune?

I'll cross my i's and t's and next time, which I already stated I would anyway. "Differently elected" or not, I said I was opposed to letting users chain shitpost in threads and drive any attempt at a discussion away.

a_skeleton_03 just freakin out this morning over complaints about moderation, he isn't dancing to Tanoomba. Wife probably didn't make him cakepops this morning or something.
 

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CERN could have saved all those billions, you all are gonna go through all the minutiae till you find the Higg-Bosons.
 

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He can disagree with the RRP of Tanoomba and still vote to not bother overturning it ...

Then he doubles his efforts on trying to ensure the rules are followed in the future.

You are trying to witch hunt Mario while ignoring the issue.

No report, not illegal, no warning.
 
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Really, I'm witch hunting mario now?

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a_skeleton_03

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a_skeleton_03 just freakin out this morning over complaints about moderation, he isn't dancing to Tanoomba
Freaking out? Not hardly. What day is it?

That's right it is Sep 1 and you people are 100% in charge but it looks like you didn't learn shit the last week about how to use the software. I even made a picture tutorial on how to issue a warning. You haven't learned shit about how you didn't like the way the old forum was ran either.

I woke up to a thread about unwarranted "joke" warnings against users not two days after you guys RRP'ed Tanoomba for no reason.

You don't learn. Why not?
 
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