I have play Rome a little but at this time all my gaming time was for WoW , i wanted to play it but probably threw it away while moving.I probably sunk 400 hours into TW:M2. I much preferred it to the later time periods and I'd say the mod support for it is some of the best. I really enjoyed going on the crusades and dealing with the Mongol Hordes (the only potential for real challenge after the early game). The Shogun games are more polished but I think also a bit more restricted in some ways.
Rome was great though I think the lacking graphics and lesser options would get to me now. Rome 2 better be fantastic because I think that time period has such amazing diversity -- that's what made the original so much fun. I still remember playing a multiplayer rome game (2 on 2) and watch my teammate get obliterated only to end up turtling and winning because they hadn't bought the right troops to face an archer heavy, spear heavy army. Still have that saved replay (something I wish all games had).
Just got done playing a TW:M2 grand campaign as the HRE and I must say, fuck those Timurid elephants. Whereas the relatively shitty siege defense AI tactic of relegating one's entire forces to the courtyard proves suicide in nearly every other circumstance, placing large amounts of heavily armed/armored elephants with siege artillery on high ground with no practical means of taking them out with missile / siege engines (in a confined space, no less) makes for massive casualties for even the highest quality armies, it's stupid. Unless you're Venice, then Mortar pewpew to victory.I probably sunk 400 hours into TW:M2. I much preferred it to the later time periods and I'd say the mod support for it is some of the best. I really enjoyed going on the crusades and dealing with the Mongol Hordes (the only potential for real challenge after the early game). The Shogun games are more polished but I think also a bit more restricted in some ways.
Rome was great though I think the lacking graphics and lesser options would get to me now. Rome 2 better be fantastic because I think that time period has such amazing diversity -- that's what made the original so much fun. I still remember playing a multiplayer rome game (2 on 2) and watch my teammate get obliterated only to end up turtling and winning because they hadn't bought the right troops to face an archer heavy, spear heavy army. Still have that saved replay (something I wish all games had).
everyday I watch the dark grey title in my steam favourites and remind myself it's getting closer ;pRome II is coming out in 10 days
sorry you are on turn 253 but your save file is now corrupted, please try again.I'm going to punch a hole in the wall if the coop campaign is acting up again after release.
hmm aside from the launch shogun bugs and the terrible siege battles, i thought shogun2 was pretty good overall.After the huge let-down Napoleon total war was (I don't recall the name, just the terrible issues trying to control units) and the weak show Shogun II put up, I'm pretty sure I'll pirate Rome II.
Lets hope Rome II isn't the same weak shit. The first one was epic, so was MWII, the napoleon - shogun saga sucked balls by comparison.
sieging was bad because the ai was ATROCIOUS. you could win with 2 archers vs like 15 spearmen... and the other way around you could siege the hell out of the cpu with archers and he would stand there dying doing nothing useful. I would go out of my way to avoid sieges to make it at least a bit challenging.The complaint was that there was a lot of them on Shogun 2. You would spend as much time sieging(sp?) as you would fighting in open field. Thats why only the provincial capitals in Rome 2 have walls, less sieges (although I honestly like the siege weapons of this era, so whatever). They also announced that they are releasing the Seleucids for free in October along with a DLC for 3 Nomadic tribes north of the Black Sea (one of which being the Scythians, which are essentially Iron Age Mongols). All in all I'm excited!