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slippery said:

I at least kind of understand that, because that's more look related and I feel like streamers like her have to at least uphold the image of don't just personify me like that. But then go on and do the stuff that's going to end up there anyways. Kind of speak one thing do another. It's pretty different imo, Doc's just being a bitch

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Well, meh. In her case it's much more of, "Don't use me out of context" type of thing, which they totally do. But fuckit, this is the internet. That's what we specialize in.

I've seen some people in her stream saying, "Sue them! Take them down with DMCA!" I'm just like, "It's fair use guys.... Nothing you can do."


But I agree about Doc. I never liked his content either. Seemed appropriate for thirteen year old male crowd.

Well, it's hard to be a cuck when you're the one stuffing another woman.

I don't care who or how long he has dicked anyone. I just want him to go away, at least to drop the act.

I just wish he'd recognize that twitch made him his money, and will likely make him a ton more if he stops acting like a little whiny bitch.

Sure are a lot of people in here who can't stop crying about some twitch streamer they claim to not watch/like while calling him a bitch or telling him to 'grow up'. Seems just a tad ironic to me.

Kiroy said:

says the guy posting in the twitch thread

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Eh, he is just talking about other people bitching about some streamer... in the appropriate forum. Seems ok to me!

Ok let me say it less stupidly. I find it humorous that a bunch of people spend 2+ pages calling someone names and implying he's the one who should 'grow up'.

What does his streaming persona have to do with the way he handles business matters? Is it even acceptable under Twitch TOS to create emotes for your channel that make fun of a different streamer? Even if it was in the past, i'm going to guess it's not any more and that's why they removed them and not because Doctor Disrespect has his hand up Twitch's ass controlling them like a puppet.

zombiewizardhawk said:

Ok let me say it less stupidly. I find it humorous that a bunch of people spend 2+ pages calling someone names and implying he's the one who should 'grow up'.

What does his streaming persona have to do with the way he handles business matters? Is it even acceptable under Twitch TOS to create emotes for your channel that make fun of a different streamer? Even if it was in the past, i'm going to guess it's not any more and that's why they removed them and not because Doctor Disrespect has his hand up Twitch's ass controlling them like a puppet.

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Because the way he handles those business matters determines if he should be hax0red.

I mean, if someone even back in the aughts even thought about being this much of bitch online, he would haxx0red so fast, it'd make your head spin.

Twitch audience is very keyed into perception. Grimmz used to average around 10-12k viewers, then he started to cry about stream snipers and used the DCMA thing and his audience died...he's lucky to even get 2k viewers now.

After all of this, I've seen Doc's audience shrink. He was getting in the 25-30k range on average, but after all of this, he was having trouble hitting 20k.

On a side note, I watched Dodger's stream where she introduced her baby on Saturday and learned a lot about pregnancy complications and how fucked up inducing labor is for the mother lol

Cybsled said:

Twitch audience is very keyed into perception. Grimmz used to average around 10-12k viewers, then he started to cry about stream snipers and used the DCMA thing and his audience died...he's lucky to even get 2k viewers now.

After all of this, I've seen Doc's audience shrink. He was getting in the 25-30k range on average, but after all of this, he was having trouble hitting 20k.

On a side note, I watched Dodger's stream where she introduced her baby on Saturday and learned a lot about pregnancy complications and how fucked up inducing labor is for the mother lol

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Yeah I can't stand Grimmz, all that guy does is whine. I tuned in for a couple minutes and he was playing Ring of Elysium or something, some newish battle royale game. One guy subbed and asked him which weapon was best with his sub text and Grimmz said "whatever weapon works best in lag because this game is always laggy." He is constantly bitching about one thing or another, it really makes me not want to watch.

Yah, I could never watch Grimmz either. This is even before all the DMCA stuff. It's too death metal for me. Add to this complaining about everything. Screw that.

Also, I'm pretty sure that everyone's viewership is down. I'm blaming it on the weather. Since it's gotten warmer outside, people have found things to do outside.

sodapoppin and ninja view counts still seem to be way higher than normal, maybe they just stream when no one else is

another guy i've followed for years is nickmercs, he used to only stream call of duty stuff and was always around 3-5k views/subs with the numbers going down the past few years as call of duty died. he's been playing fortnite now though and his numbers have doubled or tripled, pretty crazy how just figuring out the right game to stream can make such a difference to your $$ bottom line

Ya, the big numbers are almost always game related, but only so long as you maintain a really high level of skill. Even people with extremely loyal followings will get garbage views if they're playing a game with no interest. Ninja is king of Fortnite viewers, Shroud is king of PUBG viewers...but a huge part of that is the fact they're extremely good at those games and both games are high in interest.

Doc isn't that amazing at games. He is probably average/slightly above average I would say and frequently gets carried, so he needs his character to really carry the viewers.