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Vanessa's Tranny AMA Blog Thread
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Vanessa
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It's been noted you avoided my question.
I'm not triggered... more that it's really, really tiresome at this point to argue with a handful of willfully ignorant saps who want to deny the scientific facts about this entire argument.
They feel it's unethical. I have proven that the research, data, and science is indicating that kids are getting the right treatment, right help, and it's been a positive thing for these kid trannies AND THE DATA SUPPORTS THAT.
New to the convo, that wasn't a jab at your post count. Everyone in this debate was also in the SJW/GG thread. You weren't. Sorry if you misunderstood me
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Btw the funny thing is, is that all of you all bitch about the trannies competing in sports (I'm not a fan of the unfair advantage we have over women in physical sports either). If every tranny that was born with GD transitioned before they started a male puberty, the whole notion of trannies ruining women's sports would be complete and utter non-issue.
Now I'm not arguing that THIS is or should be the sole reason to continue to have puberty blockers being used... just... y'know... food for thought on that topic too.
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Are we to assume that for every tranny-kid of the sort that Charlize Theron has, that there was an equivalent sort of kid in the past that was neglected by his or her bigoted parents?
Theron is rewarding her child for that behavior and the child... being a child.... reacts to these incentives.
You are allowed to talk about the proper rearing of children just as soon as you have one of your own.
And go.
Theron is rewarding her child for that behavior and the child... being a child.... reacts to these incentives.
You are allowed to talk about the proper rearing of children just as soon as you have one of your own.
And go.
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The_Black_Log Foler
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Vanessa so mad because he wants kids to chock dick off and he wants to play sports with girlz so he can creepy in their locker room.It's been noted you avoided my question.
I'm not triggered... more that it's really, really tiresome at this point to argue with a handful of willfully ignorant saps who want to deny the scientific facts about this entire argument.
They feel it's unethical. I have proven that the research, data, and science is indicating that kids are getting the right treatment, right help, and it's been a positive thing for these kid trannies AND THE DATA SUPPORTS THAT.
New to the convo, that wasn't a jab at your post count. Everyone in this debate was also in the SJW/GG thread. You weren't. Sorry if you misunderstood me
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Btw the funny thing is, is that all of you all bitch about the trannies competing in sports (I'm not a fan of the unfair advantage we have over women in physical sports either). If every tranny that was born with GD transitioned before they started a male puberty, the whole notion of trannies ruining women's sports would be complete and utter non-issue.
Now I'm not arguing that THIS is or should be the sole reason to continue to have puberty blockers being used... just... y'know... food for thought on that topic too.
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Vanessa
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What you want me to do and what I will do is, thank God, not compatible.
Ethics - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org
Try to finish this article before you install a new sky light in the roof of your mouth.
I just explained you can't put a hard number on when puberty starts. I was simply stating that my sister started puberty as early as 8 or 9. Again, this is up to the parents and doctors, not me, you, or anyone else.
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You know Vanessa I would say you know deep down trans is bullshit because even with all the bullshit you are using to try and justify it, you can’t even bring yourself to Wu-tang off your twig and berries.
It’s just attention seeking.
It’s just attention seeking.
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How many pedophile parents and doctors does it take to make kid-fucking 'true'?
A real doctor, with real ethics, will tell you that it is called the practice of medicine. A doctor that prescribes by authority alone is no doctor at all.
Indoctrinated parents are part of the problem. Are you anti-vaxx as well? What if I found 100 anti-vaxx doctors and 100 anti-vaxx parents? Are they sudden;y 'correct' or 'true'? Is science done by vote? You are appealing to authority and treating science like a religion. Stop it.
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That's up to you. If you change your mind and can simultaneously avoid derailing the Gamergate thread with more of what you were doing previously you're free to post there.
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Vanessa
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True tranny kids are kids who will not simply "grow out" of their issues via puberty. They will have GD their entire lives. Obviously I'm not going to go through what GD is for the millionth time... I think you, Gerbil, will certainly argue your stance that, like the others are taking here, puberty blockers and HRT on kids under the age of 18 is unethical, but I don't think you're ignorant enough to not understand that GD is a real thing.
The answer you adopt is what the others are adopting too. Let the 20% suffer and go through a puberty that they DON'T want to go through and damage them psychologically in the process. This is exactly what I don't want, no more than I want the 80% to undergo puberty blockers and HRT themselves. I want, and I'll bold/underline it to be clear as glass for the like 20th time: I want the right kids to get the right treatment. Period. End of story.
I agree it's a grey area. You're not wrong about that, especially since ROGD is a proven thing in science now too, and especially since SJW/leftist ideals such as non-binary shit has also hijacked what I call "true trannies". I assure you, you have SJW/leftists who will argue till their blue in the face that you don't have to have GD to be a tranny. This is horseshit.
I already summarized all the papers I "fucking linked". It's not my fault you missed or ignored them... one time in the GG/SJW thread and one time here. It's been a TON of action in this thread tonight so it's many pages back now.
Oh and how do you properly diagnose true GD suffering trans kids? Someone already asked that a page or two ago. I said that's info that, because I'm not an endo or specialist myself, I can't accurately give a proper answer to but from the papers I've read it indicates they are successfully separating the true trannies from the kids with other issues (i.e. the 80%).
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TrollfaceDeux
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True tranny kid in it of itself is an abstract concepts.
Male and female are the only existing gender that matters.
Source: biology
Male and female are the only existing gender that matters.
Source: biology
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Vanessa
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This place works for me too. As I've stated I really don't care about the "where", I just care if it ruffled feathers to the point I was going to be Tanoomba'd (read: banned).
Thank you LLR. I'm sorry for my initial post being snappy; again I felt I was being silenced and censored. That is what WILL piss me off more than any insult anyone can dream up here about me, heh.
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Don't tell me 'the papers indicate it'. Don't tell me 'other issues'.
Vanessa, you either know the answers to these things or you don't.
So is a 'true' trans kid defined by endocrinology or sociology or psychology?
The elasticity of your definitions is allowing you a feral romp.
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Vanessa
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This is the vid I said that y'all should focus on instead of the actual article that Aaron linked in the GG thread. I've posted it to where it plays at the spot I'd at least like you to hear.
This is an MD that is arguing what you guys are arguing... that it's unethical to have kids on blockers or HRT.
I've only gotten to the 20 minute mark (I've been arguing with you guys since I've been home!), but even a doctor that takes y'alls stance knows that GD is real and states as such.
You all really need to at the very least get past this point of GD being fake. Again, it's unscientific to think otherwise.
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Not to intrude, and for the sake of argument granting everything you say, my question is this: Given that a 100% accuracy rating, in terms of treatments going to the right person, is statistically impossible, meaning that some GD kids WILL go through puberty and some non GD kids WILL be most certainly given permanently life-altering hormones, do you genuinely think it's worth those kids being permanently fucked so someone else's mental illness ( which I believe you've granted your condition is) can be assuaged? I do not mean disrespect, I do not doubt your sincerity, but would that trade-off really be worth it to you?
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Good! Now that that's out of the way I'm getting into this debate, because potentially harming children triggers me badly.
How would you respond to this post I made in the GG thread the last time this issue came up?
The thing about making a scientific argument is that
AngryGerbil
is correct, you are inherently appealing to authority. Someone would be as logically sound by saying that the devil compels you to put kids on puberty blockers, since in both cases you are appealing to an outside authority that is perceived to be higher than yourself, whether it be the devil or science. Also, ethics is not about feelings it is about philosophy, something science is not well equipped to handle. Put another way, science can possibly tell you what to do or what not to do, but it cannot tell you why or why not.
With this inherent limitation in mind, why would scientific possibility be the end-all be-all argument for putting children who's futures are anything but certain through a procedure that has the potential to permanently harm them if you imperfectly divine the outcome of at least 5 years in the future?
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Vanessa
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True trans kid suffering from GD as diagnosed by either a trained psychologist, doctor, or endocrinologist; a true tranny that will NOT "outgrow" GD just by going through puberty and in fact will have even more discomfort and distress by going through puberty.
I admit that accurately diagnosing them is something I'm not quite sure of the process either because, as is obvious, I'm not a doctor/endocrinologist myself (duh) so I can't tell specifically tell you their methods. I'd love to know though, sure... I love fact based info. I'm sure enough that in one paper they discussed that for adolescent kids with gender issues, they have a team of specialist assigned for them but I'd really have to dig that quote up again as I don't have it on me RIGHT this second, but it's in there somewhere.
If it seems my definitions are malleable, that's not how I'm intending them to be. At all. Ask me for a specific definition and will specifically, accurately, and scientifically define them for you.
Feels feels feels, no facts.
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