Weight Loss Thread

Sheriff Cad

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I mean, are you literally saying that downregulation is a myth?
Not a myth, no, just wildly overstated as a reason for being obese/can't lose weight. It's entirely due to what they are shoveling in their mouth.
Do you think we all have equivalent metabolisms?
Not at all.
and that they don't change throughout our lives?
Yes, they do not. See the studies cited above.
 

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My $0.02 having no idea what you look like or your age or weight... I'm ~50 also, and I don't think my BMR has changed since my 20's. People's activity levels change, though, and in your 20's while you were out moving shit, doing sports with your friends, going to the gym even when you were tired because who the fuck was ever tired in their 20's... your natural activity level was probably off the charts in your 20's which resulted in burning a lot more calories without trying.

As we get older assuming your hormone profile has remained similar, I don't think your BMR really changes much if at all, but we do spend a lot more time resting/sitting/whatever just because we're old fucks.

Studies bear this out also.



Also, I don't see how people don't adjust what they're doing/eating before they gain 100 pounds over a decade. It's not like that just sneaks up on you. If you gain 10-15 pounds do you not go "I need to change my habits/do something" ??
I mean, I think we all know why people don't adjust their habits before gaining 100 pounds. This is America after all.

I had a slump in my 30s where I was working too much (desk job) and was recently divorced so I wasn't putting effort into fitness like I had the prior decades. Now, at 44 I'm actually in the best shape since college. I just believe I need to lose a couple inches on the waist (work and client dinners are killing my stable diet) and I think that will amount to roughly a dozen pounds between excess water and fat.

November's DEXA scan showed me at 20.4% body fat, which is too high in my opinion. I want it to be 13-15% but that's going to be a long road. Doing another scan in June and my hope for that reading is 18-19% which means I'm heading in the right direction.
 
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Not a myth, no, just wildly overstated as a reason for being obese/can't lose weight. It's entirely due to what they are shoveling in their mouth.

Not at all.

Yes, they do not. See the studies cited above.
It always comes down to intake of course. Not eating always works. However, maintenance levels can vary pretty dramatically between people.

Also, your second article says that old men had 21% lower resting energy expenditure than young men but blames it on a difference in fat free mass. The first says that "Fat-free mass-adjusted expenditure" is relatively constant. Well ok. So your metabolism is roughly a function of your muscle mass which generally decreases as you age, as you become more sedentary, or as you diet your ass off (literally lol) ). So I don't think those disagree with me at all.

and for a study actually done on crash-dieting fatties:
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Sheriff Cad

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Also, your second article says that old men had 21% lower resting energy expenditure than young men but blames it on a difference in fat free mass. The first says that "Fat-free mass-adjusted expenditure" is relatively constant. Well ok. So your metabolism is roughly a function of your muscle mass which generally decreases as you age, as you become more sedentary, or as you diet your ass off (literally lol) ). So I don't think those disagree with me at all.
Fat-free mass and activity level are broadly correlated, so yes. If you sit around and lose muscle and get fat, your metabolism slows down. Not because you got old, because you lost muscle and got fat.

That would happen at 25 the same as it happens at 50. Eat less, move more.
 

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Fat-free mass and activity level are broadly correlated, so yes. If you sit around and lose muscle and get fat, your metabolism slows down. Not because you got old, because you lost muscle and got fat.

That would happen at 25 the same as it happens at 50. Eat less, move more.
Of course, but find a chart of the average muscle muscle mass by age. What % of men have the same muscle mass at 25 and 50? That its technically possible doesn't mean it's practically applicable. The general statement "your metabolic rate decreases as you age" is going to hold true for the vast majority of people. "You can improve your metabolism with resistance training" is a much more useful way to look at it.
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