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I'm torn on the whole thing. I hate going into my gym and seeing a new member there thats hefty/fat and they are just DRENCHED in sweat. Like, I know thats "healthy". Theyre curating their willpower and discipline. Starting their cycle of muscle gain, etc. But they'll be on shit like the stairs for an HOUR+ and Im just over there thinking how they dont even have to do that awful shit for anywhere near that long.

But I also put myself in their place and think back to when I was fat. I stress eat and I'm probably eating more than I need to right now in my life because Im going through some stressful shit. But, when I was going through my achey breaky heart phase - I was in the gym, wearing myself out to the point of exhaustion... going home, and instead of eating a proper diet or even taking a shower at times, I'd just fall over into bed and get up and do it all again the next day. Yes, it was a severe calorie deficit that brought my weight down. But it was the exhaustion, keeping my mind preoccupied, that was the driving force behind my calorie deficit.

Sitting at home or at the office thinking Im just going to count calories just wouldnt have worked. My mind would have literally drove me insane trying to fill the void that I felt with food. So.. in a way, the gym, for me anyways - was still the reason I lost my weight.
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I think you make some reasonable points. Certainly exercise is healthy for a lot of reasons, and fat fucks should absolutely be encouraged to exercise.

We should just be clear that its not whats causing the weight loss, which is specifically and directly caused by the amount of food shoveled in the piehole.

Its not just a semantics thing. Maybe you don't have time to go running today. Maybe you hate gyms (because fuck gyms, what a terrible place). But everybody has time to eat less today. I think the over emphasis on exercise leads to a lot of fat fucks because they think losing weight will require (or result from) exercise.
 
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Exercise will make you hungry. People who struggle with portion control and overeating by default will have a more difficult time controlling their intake when they exercise.
 
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Khane said:
Exercise will make you hungry. People who struggle with portion control and overeating by default will have a more difficult time controlling their intake when they exercise.
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One of the reasons why getting a food scale and logging was so important for me (and IIRC one of the dietary interventions with a lot of research backing). It really gives you context for how big a serving actually is (i.e. 1 oz of nuts is pretty much just enough to cover the bottom of an average-sized bowl and no higher).
 
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Its also good to explain it in practical terms to people. Doing 1 hour of mid to high intensity exercise is going to burn around 10 cal/min, so doing a whole hour will burn 600 calories. Then you go down to the donut shop and destroy an hours worth of effort with one single donut.
 
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sleevedraw said:
One of the reasons why getting a food scale and logging was so important for me (and IIRC one of the dietary interventions with a lot of research backing). It really gives you context for how big a serving actually is (i.e. 1 oz of nuts is pretty much just enough to cover the bottom of an average-sized bowl and no higher).
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The portion size thing is a joke and something the FDA needs to look at, but I won't hold my breath considering all the damage they've done with the food pyramid and pushing grains and seed oils while demonizing meat and dairy. The serving sizes companies are allowed to list are so intentionally misleading that it's criminal. They know damn well no one consumes their product at that level. One time I was in Costco and was looking at a package of muffins. The calories seemed low and then when you look at serving size it says 1/3rd muffin. Only the most autistic motherfucker in the world is going to cut muffins into 3rd's.
 
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Fogel said:
The portion size thing is a joke and something the FDA needs to look at, but I won't hold my breath considering all the damage they've done with the food pyramid and pushing grains and seed oils while demonizing meat and dairy. The serving sizes companies are allowed to list are so intentionally misleading that it's criminal. They no damn well no one consumes their product at that level. One time I was in Costco and was looking at a packaging of muffins. The calories seemed low and then when you look at serving size it says 1/3rd muffin. Only the most autistic motherfucker in the world is going to cut muffins into 3rd's.
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Absolutely. I'm not a big advocate for rules like this, but if we're already requiring companies to list all that shit on the label, the portion size needs to be realistic.

Your muffin example is a good one, but really if you pick up almost any package thats obviously a single serving, it'll list like 5 servings or some shit.
 
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Fogel said:
The portion size thing is a joke and something the FDA needs to look at, but I won't hold my breath considering all the damage they've done with the food pyramid and pushing grains and seed oils while demonizing meat and dairy. The serving sizes companies are allowed to list are so intentionally misleading that it's criminal. They know damn well no one consumes their product at that level. One time I was in Costco and was looking at a package of muffins. The calories seemed low and then when you look at serving size it says 1/3rd muffin. Only the most autistic motherfucker in the world is going to cut muffins into 3rd's.
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Another good one is the giant candy bars they have now. They have the regular sized Snickers on the bottom shelf at the checkout and then one front and center that's basically 2 bars that are 80% as big as the regular one and it says "share size" or some shit. If you go to the candy aisle at Walmart every package is 3 times as big as they used to be because they know the more candy you take home, the more you're going to eat. Of course it's advertised as "value" sized so you are being smart by buying a 3 lb bag of Twizzlers instead of an 8 oz one.

I watched a super obese woman with her 3 kids at a Chinese buffet the other day and they all got bottomless mountain dews and then the one little girl ate nothing but cookies off of the buffet and then they all had ice cream for dessert afterwards. That's like a week's worth of sugar for an adult consumed by a 10 year old girl at one meal. I'm not saying you don't have a choice, but they sure make it easy to eat badly.
 
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Another good one is the giant candy bars they have now. They have the regular sized Snickers on the bottom shelf at the checkout and then one front and center that's basically 2 bars that are 80% as big as the regular one and it says "share size" or some shit. If you go to the candy aisle at Walmart every package is 3 times as big as they used to be because they know the more candy you take home, the more you're going to eat. Of course it's advertised as "value" sized so you are being smart by buying a 3 lb bag of Twizzlers instead of an 8 oz one.

I watched a super obese woman with her 3 kids at a Chinese buffet the other day and they all got bottomless mountain dews and then the one little girl ate nothing but cookies off of the buffet and then they all had ice cream for dessert afterwards. That's like a week's worth of sugar for an adult consumed by a 10 year old girl at one meal. I'm not saying you don't have a choice, but they sure make it easy to eat badly.
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I saw joggers at a chinese buffet once and you'd need an engineer to get any more food on the plates they took back to the table.
 
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