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Nothing really new - many of us have been saying this for a while - but perhaps it carries more weight coming from a new study

I hate that they say it's 90% diet. That leaves it open to weasel shit and people saying it's 10% genetic.

No, it's fucking not. Count your fucking calories for a month and tell me it's genetic.
 
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If all you want is for the number on the scale to go down, diet will certainly do that. If you want to be healthy though, you should definitely exercise.
 
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If all you want is for the number on the scale to go down, diet will certainly do that. If you want to be healthy though, you should definitely exercise.
Yes. But getting to a healthy weight first is going to make exercise a lot easier, and getting to a healthy weight has immense health benefits in and of itself.
 
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Yes. But getting to a healthy weight first is going to make exercise a lot easier, and getting to a healthy weight has immense health benefits in and of itself.
You should always do both, but as is always said, you cannot outrun or out exercise your mouth. It's completely impossible. You absolutely MUST control your diet as well as exercise to be healthy.
 
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You should always do both, but as is always said, you cannot outrun or out exercise your mouth. It's completely impossible. You absolutely MUST control your diet as well as exercise to be healthy.
Losing weight is a long term project. You have to change the diet permanently for it to have a lasting effect, so starting there is going to be easiest. Exercising will absolutely make it more effective, but some people are not going to be able to do much at first. 15-20 pounds can be the difference between hurting your feet/knees/back, or not.
 
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Losing weight is a long term project. You have to change the diet permanently for it to have a lasting effect, so starting there is going to be easiest. Exercising will absolutely make it more effective, but some people are not going to be able to do much at first. 15-20 pounds can be the difference between hurting your feet/knees/back, or not.
100%, if you are a lard ass then de-lardify yourself first, although you can certainly lift weights at almost any weight. If you can stand up you can do some weights.
 
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100%, if you are a lard ass then de-lardify yourself first, although you can certainly lift weights at almost any weight. If you can stand up you can do some weights.
You should always do both, but as is always said, you cannot outrun or out exercise your mouth. It's completely impossible. You absolutely MUST control your diet as well as exercise to be healthy.
You'd make a fine GP, Cad Cad - I love your perspective here <3 I'll now start saying de-lardify yourself to every fatty I encounter.
 

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Generally speaking, most food you buy in stores has food values grossly under-estimated. No such thing as that cookie only having 130kcal. Especially in the US.

EU is a little better off, since you can't quite feed people paper&glue and call it healthy eating.

I've gotten fatter in the past 2 years. Stress, less movement, being lazy, not holding true to the diet and spending even more time behind a computer will do that.
And you know who is to blame for all that? Yeah. PEBKAC.

You have to stop putting blame where it doesn't belong. Have to recognize there's a problem, which comes pretty hard for some people.
 

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I support this change because 99% of the time when someone says "BMI is bullshit, it says I'm fat!" thats a fat person saying it.

And 99% of the time they have a big gut but claim "theyre not fat, BMI is just bullshit man!"
 

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I support this change because 99% of the time when someone says "BMI is bullshit, it says I'm fat!" thats a fat person saying it.

And 99% of the time they have a big gut but claim "theyre not fat, BMI is just bullshit man!"

This is me at 30. I was 200lbs, 6'3"

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6'3" at 200 is classified as "overweight."
 

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This is me at 30. I was 200lbs, 6'3"

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6'3" at 200 is classified as "overweight."
You look like you could lose some weight there. If you were in that position right now I'd say you need to hit the gym more than worry about your diet, because you obviously are only in the very slightly overweight size there.
 

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This is me at 30. I was 200lbs, 6'3"

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6'3" at 200 is classified as "overweight."
Its not like you look overweight there, you don't. But it's also kinda silly to try to do some physique comparison where all we can see is your legs below the knee and your lower arms.

You could be carrying 20-30 pounds of fat under that shirt and you couldn't tell in this pic. I'm not saying you are, I don't know. Just saying you can't tell a ton here.

No I'm not asking for shirtless pics. No homo.
 

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BMI is useful as a statistic on a large group of people. It's not that useful for an individual because there's too many things it doesn't take into consideration. There are many much better ways to tell if you're in shape or not than the ratio of your height to your weight.
 
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Its not like you look overweight there, you don't. But it's also kinda silly to try to do some physique comparison where all we can see is your legs below the knee and your lower arms.

You could be carrying 20-30 pounds of fat under that shirt and you couldn't tell in this pic. I'm not saying you are, I don't know. Just saying you can't tell a ton here.

No I'm not asking for shirtless pics. No homo.

At that point in life, I had abs. I was pulling 2000lb pallets around for work all day, so my cardio was decent and my legs were over proportioned compared to my upper body, which mainly just threw 25lb cases. In any cases, I was "working" for a living, so I had a way higher lean muscle mass ratio compared to fat.

Now I'm closer to 210-215 but also lift way more, and do not have abs. Definitely carrying more fat than I'd like, and I wouldn't argue it that I'm over weight now. But I noticed really quickly that once you start shedding fat and building muscle the calculus just does not work the same since muscle is denser than fat. Building your arms and shoulders counteracts a lot of what you shed from the gut and you stay very similar in weight, while having much more muscle mass and much less fat.

I also noticed this a lot from guys at work or guys I haven't seen in awhile. My old boss was maybe an inch taller than me, had a pretty substantial gut, but was otherwise my build. He's also on the other side of 60. Haven't seen him for a year and a half, but his wife (who works in the medical field) was pushing him to lose weight and he was eating not a fucking lot throughout the day when I left. Fast forward to my wedding a month ago and he looked almost sickly from losing all that fat and not having any muscle mass. I see this a lot from everyone who goes keto too. I'm not entirely sure that approach is "healthy" when you get to the point that you're looking that slight. Kinda why I've decided I'm just gonna concentrate on building/retaining the muscle mass I have as opposed to worry about a weight number.

Which is also why BMI has just never seemed correct to me. If muscle and fat have different densities, then you're missing a lot from that equation. Sure, fat fucks are gonna be fat, but if you don't have a desk job, it's entirely possible that you've just got muscle mass in places most people don't, and that does fuck up the calculation pretty quickly, and you don't have to be shredded or roided out to see it