Weight Loss Thread

Sure, but imagine trying to quit heroin when you need a 'responsible' amount of heroin every day to live, you're inundated with ads for heroin, and not only is it cheap and socially acceptable, society is practically built around shoving it in your face constantly. Sure, it's ultimately on you to control your behavior, but it would be a fuck of a lot harder.

You guys talking drug addiction on a forum built on the back of evercrack is poetic

Noodleface said:

You guys talking drug addiction on a forum built on the back of evercrack is poetic

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Cad said:

I guess it's a good thing food isn't heroin then?

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Well, as you say:

Cad said:

The issue is eating whether you're hungry or not, prioritizing bad foods because you like the taste/experience, and eating even though you know you're overweight and need to stop. Thats a food addict.

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Overeating kills more people than drugs in general and is a harder habit to kick than heroin.

Cad said:

I guess if you have an addictive personality and can't control yourself, anything could be bad. Good to know.

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It's true, but you say it as if it doesn't apply to most Americans (depending a bit on where you want to draw the fatty line).

Control said:

It's true, but you say it as if it doesn't apply to most Americans (depending a bit on where you want to draw the fatty line).
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According to that I’m obese, lol.

Burren said:

According to that I’m obese, lol.

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yeah, bmi is pretty shit on an individual level, more reasonable at the population level though. What % of adult Americans have your physique? and what % of Americans with a 30+ bmi aren't actually fat? I'm 31ish, and I guarantee I'm still fat lol.

Control said:

yeah, bmi is pretty shit on an individual level, more reasonable at the population level though. What % of adult Americans have your physique? and what % of Americans with a 30+ bmi aren't actually fat? I'm 31ish, and I guarantee I'm still fat lol.

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It just strikes me as a lazy government invention. Quick maths, lump everyone together, job done.

Burren said:

It just strikes me as a lazy government invention. Quick maths, lump everyone together, job done.

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Bro the government can’t just assume everyone is a member of our elite EverQuest bodybuilder forum

Izo said:

Hmm. How do you feel about drugs, booze and cigarettes then? Ozempic is now used off label for addiction too. Two sides of the same coin it seems.

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Dunno for sure what you're going here but I feel like some of Cad's posts have been reasonable responses. I think anyone can quit drugs/alcohol/cigs/whatever just as easily as they can quit overeating. Just a matter of self discipline.

*Disclaimer: i'm sure there's some stupid arguments like "well if you come off doing $3470 of heroin every day cold turkey then you will literally die so it's not just about discipline" crap.

Control said:

Well, as you say:

Overeating kills more people than drugs in general and is a harder habit to kick than heroin.

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This is almost or possibly even equally as disingenuous as the "covid killed everyone who died from 2019 to 2022" garbage.

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I'm about 4 pounds from being overweight on BMI...

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That's pretty damn close to what my last InBody was like 2 weeks ago. 6'4, 186 and I think it gave me 8.7 for bodyfat %.

BMI has always been stupid and eyeballs are fantastic at detecting obesity.

zombiewizardhawk said:

This is almost or possibly even equally as disingenuous as the "covid killed everyone who died from 2019 to 2022" garbage.

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Most Americans are fat enough to have detrimental health outcomes because of it. The vast majority of people who get fat will never maintain a healthy weight again. This is a far bigger societal issue than drug abuse. I'm wrong a lot though, so maybe it's a bad comparison. Feel free to walk me though the logic.
(maybe glp's will change this? although I won't be exactly shocked when turbo-stomach-cancer starts kicking in in a decade or so)

It's simple logic. You said "Overeating kills more people than drugs"

Equating any death of a fat person to "overeating is the cause of death" is the same bullshit they used to "covid is the cause of death" anybody who died who possibly maybe had covid at some point. People die. All the time. Fat people, skinny people, junkies, drug free people. Everybody.

If you want to make a proper comparison to drug overdoses then go with people who eat so much in one sitting that it actually kills them (stomach explodes or whatever would happen if you could actually eat yourself to death).

As far as the societal issues of obesity, I don't know that there actually is a solution. Modern world living equals easy access to food combined with very little demand for physical activity and very high demand for physical inactivity. Not a good combo for maintaining healthy weights and/or fitness levels. I, like you, will not be surprised to see all the lawsuits and problems with glp-1s coming out in the future just like they do with every other single pharmaceutical (whether justified or not). I don't think putting the entire country on Ozempic is any sort of solution and even if glp-1s are miracle drugs with literally no negatives, there's no way we get the entire country mandated to hop on them.