White Wolf sold to Paradox by CCP
- Thread starter hodj
- Start date
Malkav
French Madman
- 2,686
- 1,583
Overall, I thought that the clans in Masquerade had each way more personality than in Requiem, even though there was less of them in Requiem. If you dug up the lore, there was a lot of interesting things about Malkavians, Serpentis and so on. And I'm not even talking about things like True Brujah (the original bloodline, which was not dumb and had time manipulation).
iannis
Musty Nester
- 31,351
- 17,660
Paradox is also linked in with Obsidian. When Troika dissolved, they were mostly absorbed into Obsidian. So there might be a plan to outsource the game development and have Paradox publish.
Or we might get EU:VI:The Bloodening Crusades
Which would be interesting enough to play.
Or we might get EU:VI:The Bloodening Crusades
Which would be interesting enough to play.
hodj
Vox Populi Jihadi
- 31,673
- 18,384
I'm just so happy CCP won't be sitting on the IP's letting them rot into obscurity and maybe now something great can be done with the setting again. Just give me a Werewolf: Apocalypse version of VTMB:Bloodlines.
Also this happened:
hodj
Vox Populi Jihadi
- 31,673
- 18,384
White Wolf/CCP was making it, and canceled it because they couldn't get the job done.
Would have been trash had it ever been released. Be glad we missed out on it.
Croetec
Lord Nagafen Raider
- 1,783
- 1,955
The horror stories from that development cycle should be used as a prime example of how not to run your business as a developer and having pretentious asshats in your management structure. If I remember correctly they had a CCP podcast recently that addressed a question about the WoD license and what was happening and they CCP guys on the podcast just began laughing and said it would just collect dust till someone wanted to do something with it. Jesus fuck that company.
khorum
Murder Apologist
- 24,338
- 81,363
I loved mage but I didn't get to play it much. I played V:TM and the Werewolf a ton back in the 90's tho (Get of Fenris, bitches). I loved Wraith but never could get find a group playing it, when I did play it at a con, it wasnt run like the beetlejuice-type feel that the books (and Mark Rein-Hagen's art) felt.
I'd love to see a Wraith videogame presented like that, or any Mage game tbh.
Heylel
Trakanon Raider
- 3,602
- 430
Again, the IP itself wasn't rotting away. A lot of great books have been published since Onyx Path got up to speed. As far as games go, White Wolf properties have had a decidedly checkered history even before CCP became involved. It just so happens that hiring tabletop game designers and retraining them as video game developers didn't work out very well (plenty of people transitioned into production or content roles they weren't suited for). Combine that with CCP fucking the dog on EVE Online's in-person expansion plus some major public relations gaffes, and it was a recipe for disaster.
Kirun
Buzzfeed Editor
- 20,034
- 16,510
Yeah, Secret World has ambiance, setting, and story down like a motherfucker. It just kinda sucks at the whole MMORPG part.
Caliane
Avatar of War Slayer
- 15,955
- 12,617
I wouldn't go that far.
I would say, Good art, etc, but flawed mmorpg design, and implementation, and monetization.
It was a puzzle based mmo, launched with a sub fee in a dead market. Puzzles themselves then I don't feel were particularly well designed. Even after looking up answers, I did not feel like they were clever or solvable, without outside knowledge or just plain looking shit up online.
I would say, Good art, etc, but flawed mmorpg design, and implementation, and monetization.
It was a puzzle based mmo, launched with a sub fee in a dead market. Puzzles themselves then I don't feel were particularly well designed. Even after looking up answers, I did not feel like they were clever or solvable, without outside knowledge or just plain looking shit up online.
