Who would win?

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Pre-suit Vader wins

Post-suit Vader loses

Vader in the suit is not as powerful, is bulky and doesn't have the agility or reflexes he used to.
Not as powerful eh? Dude rips starships out of orbit, but he's not as powerful.

Vader destroys a T1000, without even trying.
 

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See, my money is on the T1000. Random Storm Trooper walks up to Vader. Next thing Vader knows there's a REALLY big hole in his chest thanks to a liquid metal blade.

If it's a fair fight and no one is sneaking up on anyone, then I still go T1000. Vader's no push over, but he's not super strong. And even if he does land a hit with a light saber, that's not going to stop a T1000 before it guts Vader.
The Force alerts Vader to anything he does or tries, even before T1000 does it.

T1000 shoots out a blade to impale him....Vader sees it coming, simply force stops the speak as it begins to protrude.

Literally every scenario you come up with, the Force alerts Vader of it. There's nothing it can do other than be destroyed.
 

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The Force alerts Vader to anything he does or tries, even before T1000 does it.

T1000 shoots out a blade to impale him....Vader sees it coming, simply force stops the speak as it begins to protrude.

Literally every scenario you come up with, the Force alerts Vader of it. There's nothing it can do other than be destroyed.
Even so, vader is likely not able to destroy T1000, and he will tire eventually. He is a very weak man inside that suit.

I doubt the lightsaber can kill the robot. Best it can do is destroy a little bit at a time if the terminator stays still long enough. It's a longshot that vader will even figure out how to kill that thing, much less be able to pull it off.
 

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Not as powerful eh? Dude rips starships out of orbit, but he's not as powerful.

Vader destroys a T1000, without even trying.
You're arguing that post-thrashing Vader is just as powerful as he was beforehand with all his limbs intact? GTFO

And in which movie did he rip a starship out of orbit?

That's what I thought.
 

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You're arguing that post-thrashing Vader is just as powerful as he was beforehand with all his limbs intact? GTFO
A Jedi's strength flows from the force. If having arms mattered, ie: physical power, Yoda would have been fucking worthless.
 

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The loss of body parts only matters if you believe in the stupidity of midiclorians and that shit ain't real so his power is not diminished.
 

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You're arguing that post-thrashing Vader is just as powerful as he was beforehand with all his limbs intact? GTFO

And in which movie did he rip a starship out of orbit?

That's what I thought.
See, here in the adult world, we read books. The books are part of the expanded universe, which was not excluded from this.

Next you're going to tell me Yoda wasn't powerful because he was old as fuck and 2 feel tall?

L2StarWars if you're going to talk about it.
 

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Even so, vader is likely not able to destroy T1000, and he will tire eventually. He is a very weak man inside that suit.

I doubt the lightsaber can kill the robot. Best it can do is destroy a little bit at a time if the terminator stays still long enough. It's a longshot that vader will even figure out how to kill that thing, much less be able to pull it off.
And yet, a 10 year old and an obsolete robot killed it....yet one of the strongest force users in the history of a franchise can not.

Makes sense.
 

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See, here in the adult world, we read books. The books are part of the expanded universe, which was not excluded from this.

Next you're going to tell me Yoda wasn't powerful because he was old as fuck and 2 feel tall?

L2StarWars if you're going to talk about it.
No, here in the adult world we recognize the difference between what's canon (what Lucas wrote), and what's made up fan fiction (everything else). And if you honestly think Vader in the suit is nearly as powerful as he was without, there's no helping you.
 

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The loss of body parts only matters if you believe in the stupidity of midiclorians and that shit ain't real so his power is not diminished.
It was in the movies, therefore it's real. Your personal feelings about midichlorians does not matter. You are in denial.
 

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It was in the movies, therefore it's real. Your personal feelings about midichlorians does not matter. You are in denial.
Then you can't also dismiss the fact that the T1000 was entirely ineffective at killing it's only target, a 10 year old boy. Was in a movie.
 

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No, here in the adult world we recognize the difference between what's canon (what Lucas wrote), and what's made up fan fiction (everything else). And if you honestly think Vader in the suit is nearly as powerful as he was without, there's no helping you.
No, in adult world, we don't read shit like that, don't care about stupid movies for kids and don't discuss who is stronger, elephant or rhino.
 

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Then you can't also dismiss the fact that the T1000 was entirely ineffective at killing it's only target, a 10 year old boy. Was in a movie.
If you use David's plot armor as an argument, it should also be noted that Vader, for all his force induced prescience, has an alarming tendency to have his schemes fail miserably.
 

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If you use David's plot armor as an argument, it should also be noted that Vader, for all his force induced prescience, has an alarming tendency to have his schemes fail miserably.
Every person he went toe to toe with he beat. Even the emperor he beat, and only then died. When Vader goes one on one with anyone they get beat.
 

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All Vader has to do is force levitate him into a pool of liquid metal and stick his light saber in it until he is melted. His strength or dexterity doesn't have anything to do with it. Dude is a super powerful and mature force user. He doesn't need to dance all over the place. Vader is stronger in the force than he was when he was Anakin.
 

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The loss of body parts only matters if you believe in the stupidity of midiclorians and that shit ain't real so his power is not diminished.
But that shit's canon, so yeah.

See, here in the adult world, we read books. The books are part of the expanded universe, which was not excluded from this.

Next you're going to tell me Yoda wasn't powerful because he was old as fuck and 2 feel tall?

L2StarWars if you're going to talk about it.
Which book did that happen in?

Also, the 10 year old kid was running from T1000. Vader is full of hubris, so he will face off with him. All the Terminator movie proves is that the T1000 isn't very good at chasing prey.