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Slaythe

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Some previous post had a comment from a dev saying they have flying mounts built but have yet to determine if they want them in game or not, acknowledging some of the negative impacts they had on wow.

Count me on the side that would prefer them not in game.
 

Draegan_sl

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There could be zones that allow flying mounts (in space?) and others that don't. I doubt they would trivialize Paths like explorer with flying mounts. Ya never know though.
 

Abefroman

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I want them in game but in a limited fashion. High level zones would be strictly off-limits. Also limit them on PVP servers in where and how you can use them. Would be good if they had something like zone completion like GW2. Have it where you can't use your flying mount in a certain area unless you have completed the zone.
 

Cinge

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Yeah, plenty of measures you can put in. I'm half in half. I don't like them at first since you miss so much of the world and it can really hamper/trivialize some content/features. On the flip side, once I have done everything, I hate riding via taxi systems or running to x, y or z for the 1000th time while I am tabbed out. Granted this game when I looked at the group dungeon thing, had a "Rally" button, so there might be a way to "summon" groupmates/raid-members to the content.

Pvp server wise I don't see why you can't put some kind of system in where if you get hit by a player, you can't mount for x seconds, could even go as far as , when you dismount 5 seconds before being able to attack a player). This game doesn't seem to have any open pvp objectives, so a pvp server would literally just turn into ganking/griefing and the above restrictions would fit right in.
 

gogusrl

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I don't want them at all. First of all it ruins any chance of world pvp and mounting up to fly 10m to skip the pack of mobs you don't need getting to the ones you do is a fucking awful mechanic.

If they do want flying mounts, they should have limited flight duration, skills to dismount players and maybe even require constant input to stay in the air (like press space every 5 secs to flap your wings).
 

Rezz

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Yeah, plenty of measures you can put in. I'm half in half. I don't like them at first since you miss so much of the world and it can really hamper/trivialize some content/features. On the flip side, once I have done everything, I hate riding via taxi systems or running to x, y or z for the 1000th time while I am tabbed out. Granted this game when I looked at the group dungeon thing, had a "Rally" button, so there might be a way to "summon" groupmates/raid-members to the content.

Pvp server wise I don't see why you can't put some kind of system in where if you get hit by a player, you can't mount for x seconds, could even go as far as , when you dismount 5 seconds before being able to attack a player). This game doesn't seem to have any open pvp objectives, so a pvp server would literally just turn into ganking/griefing and the above restrictions would fit right in.
Honestly, they just need to have flying mounts only work in specific zones that require having the flying mount. Floating chunks of rock with mobs/nodes on them that only appear in that area, and both the mobs and nodes are not required to experience or enjoy the game. But to use those zones? Yeah drop some coin on a scooter/space manta ray. Planet's atmosphere is too turbulent to use flying mounts in normal areas, but the floating rocks normalize shit enough so that they can be used. Have it add to the game, don't have it potentially take away from it.(being used to skip content; easy ganking in pvp; etc etc) If you have a hard-on for the hatred of flying mounts in any form, then you don't have to use them and you lose nothing. Like the idea of flying around? You can. Voila.

Really no different than creating raid content or group content or any content that a single person with super limited time can't enjoy. If they can't, they can't. If you can (you have access to chunks of time enough to raid, you make friends with people to form groups, whatever) then you can. Simple as that, really.
 

Cinge

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Funny part is when I see flying mounts and the outrage of "ugh stop copying WoW!"(not in this thread), I think back to AO 3 years before WoW and flying my Yalamha around rubi-ka :p
 

Raes

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Don't really have a problem with flying mounts, as long as the game is designed from the ground up with flying mounts in mind.
 

TJT

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After reading on the Flying Mount Debate I'd have to go against them. At least if they are implemented in the WoW-Style of what is effectively a noclip mount. If Flight can be made interesting and have some degree of limitations I think it could work. But having absolutely no reason to not use a flying mount every time you want to go anywhere is just lame.

This guy summarizes it pretty well:

http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/05...g-in-wildstar/
 

Abefroman

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I just can't take an article seriously when they start trying to use real world examples to make their point. You come off fucking stupid. Stick to game play examples.
 

Bondurant

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On the other side, no flying mounts creates encounters between players, which most of them don't really like at some point. Forced open world PvP isn't really good, nowadays people don't like being solicited, they want to have choices. They want to evolve in "havens" where the only danger comes from mobs killing you when you're too busy taking care of your kids / watching TV / etc.

Comes nostalgia, most MMO players can remember WoW's open world PvP (sorrow hills, plaguelands style) but it caters around a tiny fraction of people. I'll totally respect Carbine's view if they're willing to force players to interact themselves in a hostile environment, but it's clearly limiting their customers base at start. Personally I'm strongly against flying mounts which prevent people interacting with each others, I feel everything comes with a reward. Heh, maybe I'm getting old
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Pyksel

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I understand that folks keep coming back to flying mounts in WoW but isn't that a pretty big assumption that flying mounts in Wildstar would function the same?
 

Cinge

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While they didn't invent the concept, that is most people's only "View" on the feature.
 

Valderen

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The name of the 2 missing races are the Chua and Mordesh. That doesn't say much though as to what they look like.
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Pyksel

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While they didn't invent the concept, that is most people's only "View" on the feature.
I certainly don't disagree but it's equally as naive to think that the mechanics can't or won't be different. The devs have already spoken several times on flying mounts including the very issues that people are bringing up and there have been some really good ideas tossed around on their implementation to prevent some of the concerns such as getting in and out of combat.
 

Bondurant

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The name of the 2 missing races are the Chua and Mordesh. That doesn't say much though as to what they look like.
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I'm not gonna link leaks here since I don't know about rerolled policy about leaks, but Chuas is a go-to for unannounced race, the current beta client cleary states it. Just google image "'Wildstar Chua". :p
 

spanner

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What if you could be attacked in air with your flying mount and have aerial combat? With this you could make the Z-axis part of content and not about being a fast way to skip over content.
 

xzi

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For the record, it was stated in an interview when someone asked about Flying mounts and they did say they were in the game - but are only being used by devs currently. Someone else also posted this, they haven't decided if they want to add them in or not. I kind of could care less because it's not like they have to be like WoW flying mounts in the slightest other than being in the air.

Also if the Chua is a race I am playing one because that thing is fucking ADORABLE.