World of Warcraft: Current Year

Crone said:

Make it happen Noodleface !

Make FoH great again! I can't wait for the Noodle vs sco show downs!

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We're trying. We went from A LOT of people at the beginning of the xpac to not a whole lot. Our first normal raid in EN we had SIXTY people show up. I had to organize two separate normal raids. We cycled through so many people (a lot of really good ones too) that just quit in the 6 month MMO cycle that a lot of people here do.

Additionally we're also drastically trying to change how we play and what constitutes being a raid member. Prior to a few months ago it was "are you breathing" and to be honest I didn't even really enforce that. Now we have separate raider and member ranks and the heartburn associated with that just staggering. To put it into perspective it's a system I employed in nighthold Midway through and I had people completely quit the game over it. It's something you never want, but in the interest of not quitting a guild I love to find a mythic guild I'm here trying to balance a myriad of playstyle.

We have people that joined that I don't even invite to raids anymore. It's tough for me to say "hey I like you as a person.. but you can't play with us." I'm such a softie for bleeding hearts that I even had officer helping people get better. That's all done now though, that's not how a mythic guild works. It can't.

@Sumdain x I knew when you sent the message that we wouldn't be the right fit, although I intentionally did try to persuade you because we'd be absorbing great players. The fact that you guys found a guild that needed two tanks and some healers is great.

I'd love to absorb a small guild but as it stands we're at like... 14 great all star players and a couple good players. I really only need that small handful to elevate us. I just don't see it unless a package deal comes along again. And on that topic I hate package deals.. they almost always leave together.

Recruiting is also difficult because I'm doing it on so many fronts. Reddit, forums, trade chat, sucking dicks behind the 7-11. I'll give xzi credit because in one day he recruited like 8 people lmao. Only one was a great player for us, but he did it.

We also lost a bunch of people in mythic NH when we hit the 4th boss wall. It went from having too many people to being 3 people short every time. We had people blow up on me publicly here saying I could never be a mythic leader. People told me I was a piece of shit because I didn't play every night (I have the 2nd highest ilvl in the guild and parse purple; also 99% attendance). People talked shit behind my back (and some still play). Some people said shit about my boots on the first raid day Crone . Thankfully I'm a pretty mentally stable person even if I sound like fuckin Eeyore when I raid.

Sorry my mini rant is over. I don't even remember the point anymore lol.

Tldr; recruiting is tiring. We'll get there. 14 days.

PS Sco can easily lead a world first guild because he doesn't have to work. Method is his job.

If you guys didn't raid Friday I'd consider a return tour to be able to raid again.

Ao- said:

Dem boots tho...

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Funny story. Crone gave me shit about my boots but during wod a friend trolled my twitch and asked why I was wearing PvP boots.

This lead to braen continually asking me about upgrading my boots even though he didn't raid

Noodleface said:

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We're trying. We went from A LOT of people at the beginning of the xpac to not a whole lot. Our first normal raid in EN we had SIXTY people show up. I had to organize two separate normal raids. We cycled through so many people (a lot of really good ones too) that just quit in the 6 month MMO cycle that a lot of people here do.

Additionally we're also drastically trying to change how we play and what constitutes being a raid member. Prior to a few months ago it was "are you breathing" and to be honest I didn't even really enforce that. Now we have separate raider and member ranks and the heartburn associated with that just staggering. To put it into perspective it's a system I employed in nighthold Midway through and I had people completely quit the game over it. It's something you never want, but in the interest of not quitting a guild I love to find a mythic guild I'm here trying to balance a myriad of playstyle.

We have people that joined that I don't even invite to raids anymore. It's tough for me to say "hey I like you as a person.. but you can't play with us." I'm such a softie for bleeding hearts that I even had officer helping people get better. That's all done now though, that's not how a mythic guild works. It can't.

@Sumdain x I knew when you sent the message that we wouldn't be the right fit, although I intentionally did try to persuade you because we'd be absorbing great players. The fact that you guys found a guild that needed two tanks and some healers is great.

I'd love to absorb a small guild but as it stands we're at like... 14 great all star players and a couple good players. I really only need that small handful to elevate us. I just don't see it unless a package deal comes along again. And on that topic I hate package deals.. they almost always leave together.

Recruiting is also difficult because I'm doing it on so many fronts. Reddit, forums, trade chat, sucking dicks behind the 7-11. I'll give xzi credit because in one day he recruited like 8 people lmao. Only one was a great player for us, but he did it.

We also lost a bunch of people in mythic NH when we hit the 4th boss wall. It went from having too many people to being 3 people short every time. We had people blow up on me publicly here saying I could never be a mythic leader. People told me I was a piece of shit because I didn't play every night (I have the 2nd highest ilvl in the guild and parse purple; also 99% attendance). People talked shit behind my back (and some still play). Some people said shit about my boots on the first raid day Crone . Thankfully I'm a pretty mentally stable person even if I sound like fuckin Eeyore when I raid.

Sorry my mini rant is over. I don't even remember the point anymore lol.

Tldr; recruiting is tiring. We'll get there. 14 days.

PS Sco can easily lead a world first guild because he doesn't have to work. Method is his job.

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This seriously sums up why I never want to go back to mythic raiding, guild admin and recruiting shit is the worst. It would make me fall back into the 6 month and done xpac cycle too.

why are the only people I talk to that want to join the guild healers with no dps spec and want to join as a couple

stop

xzi said:

why are the only people I talk to that want to join the guild healers with no dps spec and want to join as a couple

stop

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Ya. Recruiting sucks. It's especially hard to balance all the personalities in this guild like you said. It does feel like we are very close to having a decent core... But getting a handful more stable dps seems to be impossible. This surprises me so much since it seems like there should be a million of them, but unfortunately they all seem really bad.

Lenaldo said:

Ya. Recruiting sucks. It's especially hard to balance all the personalities in this guild like you said. It does feel like we are very close to having a decent core... But getting a handful more stable dps seems to be impossible. This surprises me so much since it seems like there should be a million of them, but unfortunately they all seem really bad.

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Recruiting now is a shit show.

It's basically either all tanks and healers or a group of 7 people

That's mostly because DPS don't get recruited by a guild progressing on mythic unless they are rocking 920+ gear or 910+ and a highly needed spec. So either the mythic guild derps around hoping to pull the rare high ilevel that actually knows their stuff or is willing to gear up someone in the 900+ range if they prove they can pull good numbers for their ilevel. Most guilds don't even bother with the latter.

edit: When I used to raid hardcore we actually geared people who showed good numbers at lower ilevels. Take them on the farm content, slap on some upgrades and you have someone who is usually grateful they got the chance and can contribute. Instead low end mythic guilds are trying to recruit people exclusively who are almost at the ilevel of their current content. Well, most of those people would be solidly guilded if they didn't suck. Getting that 920+ ilevel is simply a matter of time if you play the same toon exclusively due to titanforge and then raid leaders wonder why that 924 warrior is 250k+ dps below what he should be parsing.

I mean, I wish that were an option for us. Mythic being restricted to your server only when it's current content is okay but we play on a low pop server, and it's hard to sell a server transfer on a "maybe we'll have 4 more next week"

xzi said:

I mean, I wish that were an option for us. Mythic being restricted to your server only when it's current content is okay but we play on a low pop server, and it's hard to sell a server transfer on a "maybe we'll have 4 more next week"

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I feel you, not a chance in hell I'd try running a dedicated mythic guild on a low pop. Xrealm bullshit is, aside from titanforge, my least favorite thing blizz has done with the game. Put the final nail in the community coffin and pretty much ensured that low pop servers have no effective raiding base because they can do their normals and heroics in xrealm pugs and then if they get the urge to do some mythic they just transfer to KJ/Sarg etc.

I'd recruit 900s lol

Just did the Illidan raid that's part of your Order Hall quests. hahaha, that shit was great. Who pulled aggro!

Noodleface This is a sign you should start your raids about 11pm EST, and pull in some sweet ass PST players.

All our players are est. With the exception of like 2

Bring reforging back please. This tier is god awful for stats

People don't want to casually do heroic and some mythic though. It was fine in NH but people want the challenge now. They got the taste.

The only challenge in heroic so far is KJ and the other challenge is carrying shitters

Buddy says the first boss in new raid tier is the hardest he's seen for a long time maybe ever.

EDIT: To clarify the hardest first boss.