World of Warcraft: Current Year

xmod2 said:

That's the first picture where Alex looks fully middle eastern. And Ghostcrawler... looks like some kind of weird fantasy race or something.

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He looks like a guy who lives in So Cal and spends a lot of time at the beach.

xmod2 said:

That's the first picture where Alex looks fully middle eastern. And Ghostcrawler... looks like some kind of weird fantasy race or something.

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inb4 Riot kneejerk shitcans Greg for being a punk to a Kotaku reporter. he's set in the old ways. they gonna learn that boy today.

He's chief creative lead of the MMO project-- he won't go easy. The entire Riot MMO is relying on him and his vision.

Runnen said:

What I don't really get is why they were harassing the women working there.. have you seen the women working there?

I can understand bringing in hot fangirls at conventions, but most of the women I've seen in Blizzard interviews or insider documentaries look like blue-haired hogs.

Is there even a hot chick in that whole team that could make it worth risking your seven figure salary as a lead creative director?

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I do not understand preying on gamer girls or tech girls. horrible wife material.

Asmon: "this is like if someone accused of terrorism just happened to have their favorite band be Isis."

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I do not understand preying on gamer girls or tech girls. horrible wife material.

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Furor's not a bad looking guy but the rest of those fucking hobgoblins needed both a neon sign saying "I'm a Blizzard Developer" and a room pre-stocked stocked with booze so they could feed drinks to whatever doe eyed Draenai cosplayer of questionable age or hideous convention snogbeast that was willing to "just come up and talk for a while about your transmog set."

It was someone's job to clean up after those animals. I hope they tipped the maid.

jayrebb said:

He's chief creative lead of the MMO project-- he won't go easy. The entire Riot MMO is relying on him and his vision.

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You mean Riot won't let him go easy. He'll be subject to a few workshops, and he'll be super cautious interacting with anyone before he gets Actiblizz'd.

I think him moving to Riot /after/ their Kotaku incident years ago means he's willing to drop the Cosby Suite bullshit (which was well documented on his own Twitter about how there "always has to be a Cosby suite"), and move on with his live making actual games instead of playing office politics.

Rioters have already had their #MeToo moment years ago, this exact thing in fact with a different Kotaku reporter, and they made the changes internally to prevent that from happening again.

The best thing Greg could do right now is apologize and ensure the world he won't ignore predatory people he works with that are getting preyed upon by sr. management again. And hope he's not named in the lawsuit due to Facebook group chat association, because that would be games industry career-ending for him.

Notice I said people, not men or women, this isn't a sexism or racism SJW issue. I truly believe the issues with the games industry are deeper seeded than social justice. The issues are with people in power abusing their leverage over others, and those abused (whether it be sexually, physically, stereotyped, financially, quid pro quo, or otherwise) having no recourse for the misdeeds of management.

This happens in open source, in professional workplaces, in hobbies, in highschool, etc - the details don't matter much after the accused is proven guilty with sufficient evidence provided to a public display.

Here's a good example of a female employee involving a company decision that could have been made against any gender or race and was abused due to her position compared to management:

Tiggs, SWG's former CM, told me a story years ago about how she was told to lie to the SWG community on behalf of SOE so they could kill the game, as the licensing drama was becoming toxic and unsustainable for LucasArts... She refused to lie on behalf of the players, and was escorted out by a police on the request of SOE, even though she wasn't hostile or upset in the process.

It doesn't matter her gender. It matters that a person in power abused their position to exert their control over someone, to make an already shitty situation worse. I'd love to see what Raph Koster thought of that or if he even knew. I love him to death as an amazingly talented, brilliant game designer, and I'd like to hope if he knew the circumstances, what he would have done differently.

Merrith said:

Asmon: "this is like if someone accused of terrorism just happened to have their favorite band be Isis."

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And now Asmon saying it isnt that bad if women want to have consentual hook ups with these guys in Cosby Suite. He is about to get the Twitter mob really worked up.

Fras Siabi's Axe from Dire Maul is now Grimm's Cigar Cutter;

All Fras Siabi references in Stratholme, both the dungeon and pet challenge, now direct to Ezra Grimm -
Such as the mini-boss Ezra Grimm, The Great Ezra Grimm quest and Ezra Grimm's Advertisement;

All Furor items have been renamed - Foror's Compendium of Dragon Slaying is now Nostro's Compendium of Dragon Slaying;

The Autographed Picture of Foror and Tigule now only features Tigule, a reference to Jeff Kaplan.

Field Marshal Afrasiabi in Stormwind has been replaced by Field Marshal Stonebridge;

Lord Afrastrasz at Wyrmrest Temple is now Lord Devrestrasz;

Pathstalker Kariel in Eversong Woods is now Pathstalker Avokor;

Shard of Afrasa is now Shard of the Splithooves;

https://www.wowhead.com/item=7228/tigules-strawberry-ice-cream

Mist said:

The fact that it's called the Cosby Club/Cosby Suite implies that the whole point of the club/suite is to get women intoxicated past the point of consent.

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They took pictures of their bar as well.

wormie said:

And all those women who came up to the cosby suite were all forced to do so and didn't come willingly, right? Right?

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Of course! They were given ruffies too and were raaaaaaaaaped! Why else would they call it the "Cosby Suite"!?!?!

Mist said:

And finding out it's filled with misogynists and seditionists.

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And... things.

Mist said:

I don't think the women had a Cosby room.

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They had the Steinem Lounge.

it doesn’t matter what they did/do not do. The suite name, pics, group chat…

All a women has to do now is accuse any of the men in that pic/chat. In the immortal words of that fat rapper: You played yourself.

Mist said:

Yeah but nobody is getting trouble for gossiping.

They're getting in trouble for harassment, assault, etc.

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Name an instant of assault charges being filed against anyone named in the lawsuit?

I think a good chunk of Asmon's chat is really young. He mentioned how in the past people used to say "we raped that raid boss" or something to that effect in gaming and how it was used in a different context, and tons of people in chat were like "omg, I've never heard such a thing!". No shit, because probably 50% or more of that chat is probably under the age of 20 and their first video game system was probably a Gamecube or PS3/PS4.