World of Warcraft: Forever

I just picked up the sleeping bag quest at level 15 but it says its a level 22 quest. Do I need to wait to do it?

TJT said:

Also, did anyone get the journeyman campfire kit or the fishing rack from running dungeons? It looks like something you will either pay exorbitant amounts for or have to repeat certain dungeons for.

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Havent seen either.

TJT said:

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Good to see nothing has changed, yall go in the same circles regardless of what MMO is in the title.

TJT said:

You just need to do a lot of running to get it as I understand. So you probably don't need to wait.

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Awesome, know how I am spending my Veterans Day now.

CaughtCross said:

I just picked up the sleeping bag quest at level 15 but it says its a level 22 quest. Do I need to wait to do it?

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I did it at 14, it's just alot of running around. At that level the best reward was the bigger bag, the sleeping bag was more of a bonus.

Pro tip. Be sure to get any of the books you can while doing the bag quest.

mkopec said:

I actually dont mind any of this shit. Its the difference that makes it an actual MMORPG with a world vs a lobby dungeon whatever game like live wow has turned into.

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Yup. Also worth noting that if the devs actually mean that the world is the "main character" you can expect them to make decisions that support that. Being able to teleport to dungeons from anywhere directly undermines the integrity of the world. If they're approaching this correctly they're going to be doing exactly what I think MNM is doing in their own way, solve the same problems that WoW live solved with its systems but in a different way that is more cognizant of the effect it has on the world and the "classic" gameplay.

Devs are learning to separate what we want from want we say we want it seems.

TJT said:

Speaking of the book turn ins in Undercity (if Horde). What is the point of those quests? You find a book and turn it in for like 250XP, it doesn't do anything else for you?

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There are multiple completion thresholds where you get bonus rewards after turning in certain numbers of books. This includes blue gear at the end

I haven't had any issues with mob kill quests, because I invite random people to a group so we all get credit instead of a bunch of solos fighting over scraps lol

you skipped shimmering flats then?

TJT said:

The hope here is that they can find some other way out of it this time.

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What on earth gives you hope that anyone working at ActiBlizzard in 2026 can cut the Gordian knot? They're probably more interested in being knotted by their bad dragon anyway.

Springbok said:

Hit 45, needless to say I'm enjoying it. Riverglades was awesome, and easily the best leveling zone/experience in this entire game (by a million miles). More quests, better flow, layout, travel time etc... all improved in the new zone. My biggest gripe so far is there just hasn't been enough "new" stuff on the way to 50 so far. The new dungeons are pretty good, but not worth the time to do them if you don't care about leveling blues (Even running once is kind of worthless as the quests are mostly pita's, from a purely efficiency standpoint).

Wish there were two more new leveling zones to smooth out the experience more. I personally don't really mind the pace/running/etc, just wanted more "new", and so far there hasn't been enough (for what I was personally wanting/expecting). Especially after experiencing a lot of the new content, which has been mostly great. Will try to hit 60 by mid next week and start trying the late game zone additions/dungeons etc in prep for first raid tier which should be good. Just really wish they made 3 "Riverglades" zones.

Other good thing about riverglades it was mostly empty. So many people following leveling apps, funneling into the existing zones/quests, when the best xp/hr zone sits largely underutilized is kind of funny.

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I really wanted to get into this and was pretty close to pulling the trigger, but the more I think about it, the harder it is to convince myself that this version of WoW has any real long-term future.

Blizzard keeps playing coy with the whole "Imagine if the Dark Portal never opened!" premise. Okay, I'm listening. Sounds interesting. "And imagine it's essentially Cataclysm, where we revisit and revamp the old world without actually destroying it, while rolling back a lot of the QoL and convenience features that eventually led to retail!" Hmm... okay, there's potentially something there.

But what's the actual long-term content plan?

"Well... we're going to add some new zones and dungeons!"

Okay, and then what?

"Uhhh... stay tuned!"

That's really where I struggle with this. If Blizzard had laid out even a somewhat vague roadmap, I'd be much more inclined to jump in. Something along the lines of: "Here's our take on an old-school, nostalgia-driven version of WoW. We're going to expand on the existing world and here's the new zones/dungeons we're planning to introduce over the next few months. We're going to improve questing in certain areas, and generally build upon the original experience. Then, perhaps eight months from now, we'll introduce a version of Wrath of the Lich King that follows the same philosophy, with some adjustments to account for the changes we've made to the lore and world. Maybe two years down the road, we'll explore doing something similar with Pandaria."

Whatever. It doesn't have to be a rigid, multi-year development commitment, but give people some indication that there's an actual vision for where this thing is going. Because as it stands, I'm being asked to buy into what essentially amounts to replaying Classic WoW with some minor questing improvements and a handful of new low-level dungeons, while simultaneously stripping away 90% of the QoL improvements that have accumulated over the years.

I can appreciate the concept, and I can even see the appeal of what they're trying to accomplish. But nostalgia and a handful of new leveling zones aren't a content strategy. At some point, you need to give people a reason to believe there's something beyond the initial novelty. And my fear is that there isn't. This is just trying to capitalize on nostalgia bucks between content cycles and before GTA VI takes over the internet.

I'll sit back and see how Blizzard supports this over the next several months before making a decision. I'd rather see some evidence of a long-term commitment than buy into version 47 of WoW that ultimately runs out of road.