X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2019)

pharmakos said:

Patrick Stewart as Xavier doesn't count or?

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He was fine. Some of the other actors were fine considering what they were given as well. Was more of a comment on people bitching about Wolverine's casting when that was the least of this franchise's problems.

Lenardo said:

ya better trailer than i thought.

WANTED the Phoenix "flames" around her at the end closing scene. woman with the white hair i assume is emma frost?

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emma frost is a blonde. supposedly, the character goes by the name "Smith" and is a shapeshifter?

Days of Future's Past was still a great movie. Granted it was followed with shit, but that doesn't make it any less good.

yeah, i just rewatched DOFP. there was definitely some handwaving, plot wise, but it was still a pretty good movie.

I had actually forgotten about DoFP in my post. I'd put that there with First class and 2nd Wolverine as competent, coherent movies. I do not think it's great, but it's also not dogshit.

I was slightly underwhelmed by DoFP, given how much I liked First Class and with Singer back for the first time since X2 (or whatever that movie's actual title was); Apocalypse was a slog that had me hoping they'd shelve the whole X-Men universe. Hell, to this day, I don't know which timeline Deadpool is in, if any. Burn everything but Ryan Reynold's contract down and let The Mouse take over.

Them promoting Mystique's death makes it clear that the rumors of Kinberg's incompetence are likely and the only thing this movie has going for it is shock value.

Is it just me, or is this summer movie season extremely weak? Sure, everyone will see Endgame, and hopefully John Wick 3 will bounce back from its own slightly underwhelming entry, but Spider-Man will likely be fine but not as good as Into the Spider-verse, and Captain Marvel will be another Black Panther (i.e. another profoundly middling Marvel entry that I will somehow be a racist and/or sexist monster if I don't think its the greatest movie since Citizen Kane). Is the bound-to-be-a-disaster Dark Phoenix really going to be the fifth best movie of the season? Cripes.

Edit: Well, I actually checked the release calendar, and Shazam could be fun, I have no clue what this version of Hellboy will be, Detective Pikachu is so WTF it could be entertaining, and a MIB spinoff may not be a terrible idea. But is Disney really releasing THREE remakes in 5 months (Dumbo / Aladdin / Lion King)? Talk about intellectually bankrupt.

Pikachu gonna make ridiculous amounts of money. It's Deadpool 3 for kids.

Trailers looks decent. Going to be lured in to a mediocre movie for sure though. Probably worth it for the Quicksilver and/or Magneto scenes which are usually worth.

Mystique is totally dead though. Jlaw hated all the body makeup bullshit and there's no way after the failings of the last one she wanted to stick around for a full movie. I really hope Phoenix isn't defeated by her "love for Scott" or some dumb shit though.

Emma Frost is dead, dunno why anyone would think that's her in the trailer.

One of the biggest failings of this franchise was/is the waste of Storm. Such a great, strong character - and a black female at that - they could have ditched Scott the bitch as leader (seriously, since when was Cyclops such an emo bitch?) and had her rock, while appeasing the SJW crowd a bit, but they did nothing with her. Other than give her the worst line ever out of 8? movies.

I do think it'd make these movies better if they'd let the characters have their own movies like the rest of Marvel. It's hard to care about this version of Storm because she's been so underutilized. The Xmen don't really feel like a team at all lately and I think that has something to do with it.

That said, I collected these comics in the 80s back to the start of this story and I thought this last trailer actually looked....good?

I dunno, I still want the whole story so a movie really just doesn't cut it, this would be so much better as an HBO level show.

Honestly, apart from the Wolverine standalone films, I've found all the X-men films pretty consistently average or above. I'll watch this one too; not in theaters, but when I inevitably get it as a gift from a friend and later resell after a single watch.

The "blonde chick" is Jessica Chastain, she's playing an alien or something, right?

Brikker said:

The "blonde chick" is Jessica Chastain, she's playing an alien or something, right?

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One of the Shi'ar supposedly. Even if they're sticking with the comics, they're trying to stick too much into a single 2.5 hour movie and they're going to end up crowding out the titular character.