Avengers: Age of Ultron

Considering Captain America resisted Loki's staff in the first Avengers, I'm pretty sure The Hulk can. What others have said is probably the case, Scarlett Witch doesn't need to mind control Hulk, she just needs to send him into an uncontrollable rage so that he starts killing civilians and/or the other Avengers.

Malakriss_sl said:

This doesn't look entirely normal for Hulk

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He smoked a Hulk sized bowl. He gets angry because he has Hulk sized munchies and Hawkeye ate the rest of the Doritos.

Xevy_sl said:

I'd agree if you meant Thor and Hulk basically did all the heavy lifting with Stark having a 'game plan' and Cap being 'the heart' or whatever.

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Yeah, I hastily typed that post out but that's the crux of what I was getting at. Kind of hard to respect, or be excited about, the input of the other Avengers when you have an Asgardian god and, well, the motherfucking Hulk.

They hinted at it in avengers, but I would love it if they spent more time focusing on caps leadership abilities. He's historically been the only one who can consistently keep the team together and focused. Half of that is just out of sheer respect for who he is. They have SORT of talked about that with the trading cards but honestly, we need to see exactly why Thor, immortal god of thunder and prince of Asgard has no problem in the world following orders from cap.

I'd really like it if they did that with Hawkeye as well. I mean, we know why black widow is on the team, she's a super spy and when she lands a jump she splays her legs out like this. But Hawkeye is awesome and he hasn't really gotten much love in the MCU.

I think part of the problem is Chris Evans. He still comes across as a twenty-something GI not a battle-hardened veteran. The point you made about the team respecting Cap is a very valid one. What is it based on exactly? He led some daring raids during WWII and then was on ice for decades then suddenly he meets the Hulk, Thor, etc and the audience, and his team, are fast-tracked into this acceptance of him being the hero that the comic book audience view him as.

I'm hoping that the events of cap 2 really change his laid back perception of the world. The comics give such a great feeling that cap is a household name and everyone loves and respects him. Even his enemies salute him. The movies come across like its still a secret that he's around, or at least that the common man doesn't seem to care one way or another. I mean, like... All it would take is a scene were ironman is being mobbed by paparazzi, and cap walks by or something and they all just stop and whisper to themselves. No one takes a picture. Stark mocks the press, saying something along the lines of sarcastically telling them he could get them an interview with him. They look at tony like he's walking over their mother's grave. "How DARE you bring cap down to our level!"

It would show how just how much EVERYONE loves cap, and throws a jab at the paparazzi that Hollywood hates at the same time. And it would put a further rift between stark and cap to set up civil war. /shrug

But again, it doesn't show WHY cap is so respected. Cap needs to be the last one standing against ultron.

Well I like that Cap is positioning himself against american authority. Which he has to really. We're damn near the global hegemon. If shit ain't right, we've undoubtedly got a hand in one or both sides of whatever shit it is, and he doesn't like that. Cap doesn't do shades of grey. I'm actually curious where Marvel takes Cap's philosophy in his next few appearances.

j00t_sl said:

But again, it doesn't show WHY cap is so respected. Cap needs to be the last one standing against ultron.

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They might be saving that move for Thanos.

I never liked ultron... he just crossed me as an evil emo robot that no one liked, not even his creator, wife, kid... because he is an evil douchebag...who is evil because he is evil...but evil because no one likes him.

Thanos is imo going to be a better big villan - I hope he lasts for more than one movie where he is the direct "bad guy" so GOTG does not count.

Well, avengers 3 is split into 2 movies, so there's that.

Which reminds me... Why do studios do that? Don't call it avengers 3 part one and two. Its avengers 3 and 4.

I dunno, I thought Cap 2 did a pretty fucking good job of making Capt America awesome. Hell, it's probably the best Marvel movie period. Sure, in Avengers he was just sorta in charge because somebody had to be. He was just the first guy to start giving orders. But now you can see how they'd all respect him.

We already got a taste of what you are talking about just from the trailer though - he makes Thor's hammer move.

(not a euphemism)

Take it with a grain of salt and whatnot, but yeah. Also, heavy spoilers if true.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansit...news/?a=113625

That would be impressive, but I wouldn't mind seeing the existing Spidermans being nuked and them simply focusing on villain movie development separate from Marvel's designs.