Blade Runner 2049 (2017)

He turned down Bond 25 to do it, and considering how good that could have possibly been he is very commited

j00t said:

replicants don't lack empathy.

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I don't think that's true. Isn't that the point behind the "Voight-Kampff" test?

http://bladerunner.wikia.com/wiki/Voight-Kampff_machine said:

A very advanced form of lie detector that measures contractions of the iris muscle and the presence of invisible airborne particles emitted from the body. The bellows were designed for the latter function and give the machine the menacing air of a sinister insect. The VK is used primarily by Blade Runners to determine if a suspect is truly human by measuring the degree of his empathic response through carefully worded questions and statements.

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I'm not sure what Luv's deal is. She obviously had a very emotional response when Wallace was blabbing about replicant reproduction but then showed no hesitation or remorse for poor ol' Coco (granted, he was human so guess she didn't give a shit).

ShakyJake said:

I don't think that's true. Isn't that the point behind the "Voight-Kampff" test?

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I think that's the entire plot of the world. Humans WANT them to be void of emotion, but at some point they evolved to have them. The voight-kampff test is basically gibberish. It just creates a system where replicants learn to hide emotion or they die

The point of the VK test, as I understand it, isn't that they lack empathy, just that they don't have the same response as a human would. Like j00t said, they are trying so hard to beat the test, like screaming inside their heads "BE HUMAN!" that they react differently. But it's subtle. Also, that could all be bullshit. Seems very up to interpretation.

Didn’t realize Hans Zimmer did the soundtrack. The music really made the movie for me (like the music did for me when I was a kid; same for Terminator). The one I have on repeat at the moment is this one, but then I also have a huge crush on Joi as well. That is one beautiful woman.

Best track to me.

The Android revolution was definitely a setup and the weakest part of the movie. No sequel though for another 20 years, movie lost money

Just saw it on blu-ray again. Great soundtrack.

The movie flew by. Movies for me rarely fly by. For 2h40m it felt like the movie was missing another 30 to 60 minutes of footage...Anyone else notice this on rewatch?

I didn't catch that feeling in theaters, but when relaxed watching the blu-ray I felt a 4 hour runtime was not out of the question as Villuveve alluded to in that interview. There seemed to be some development missing. All seeing this again did was reinforce my interest in the longer cuts. Whether its 3 or 4 hours-- I just know there is a lot of movie missing here.

I really hope he back tracks on his decision and fans are able to convince him (through harassment) that the longer cut is probably the right cut. Hopefully some ranking film critics or some of Villiuveve's peers and high level producers can convince him to drop a directors cut if the blu-ray sales go well enough.

Brando said:

Right, should have expanded and said that while I understand that a sequel isn't being made it sure seemed the movie was made with one in mind. I wasn't even thinking so much the revolution but are we sure Joe/K wasn't something different?

Edit: forgot how he got the wood horse

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The replicant revolution actually started decades prior to the movie. The “Blackout” that was alluded to when K visited Wallace HQ to get info on Rachel was the result of a replicant uprising that EMP’d Los Angeles and released a dirty bomb in Las Vegas.

It’s implied that the EMP burnt out much of LA’s grid and it’s effect lingered into 2049, like how when K flew over the old Tyrell Arcology.

The Anime prequel actually showed the blackout being played out by old Nexus 6’s trying to clear the records so other replicants can hide easier.

What was the purpose of the chick in the birth sack that he ended up gutting? That’s the only part I don’t quite remember what was going on.

Was Luv crying in that scene because of his treatment of the failure and because she wanted to kill him but couldn't or because she was sad that it was another failure.