CFB 2012-2013

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In 1994 Gene Stallings had Homer Smith and Bill Oliver. I can only imagine what might have been had Stallings given Smith full control on offense.
 

Joeboo

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early 90s K-state
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(back row, from left): Dana Dimel,Jim Leavitt, Jerry Palmieri,Bob Stoops,Bill Snyder,Mark Mangino,Mike Stoopsand Bob Cope.

The far right on the bottom row is Bruce Van De Velde, Lousiana Tech's AD that fucked up their bowl bid this year, lol

Decent little collection of coaches there

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Foggy

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I've been saying that for a while now, and it pains be to do so because I downright loathe Nebraska as a Mizzou fan, but Suh was the most dominant player I've seen in College Football in the last decade at least. Maybe the most dominant player since Barry Sanders.
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Borzak

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I think UT with Chavis and Cutcliffe was as good at head coach and the two coordinators as any team in history. Fulmer didn't develop any good young assistants though, which is part of the reason he tailed off at the end.
When UT runs off a coach they must really tick them off. Chavis said some pretty bad things about UT recently during their coaching search and why he wasn't interested in ever going back at any capacity.
 

Gilgamel

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I've never heard him say much bad about UT since he left. Got a link? People have always said he would come back with Phil or maybe even without.
 

Borzak

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It was in the Baton Rouge paper one day last week. Said he really didn't think he would go back to UT at any position along with some other stuff. Maybe he was ticked he didn't make the list of everyone else who was in the mix for the UT job.
 
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I've been saying that for a while now, and it pains be to do so because I downright loathe Nebraska as a Mizzou fan, but Suh was the most dominant player I've seen in College Football in the last decade at least. Maybe the most dominant player since Barry Sanders.
Tim Tebow says hi, with his 2 MNCs, 2 SEC championships, 1 Heisman and 2 Heisman finalist appearances, and a plethora of other awards.
 

Joeboo

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At no point in Tebows career did I ever watch a big game of his and think "man, he just single-handedly took over that game and won it"

Great leader, great motivator that got the most out of his teammates, and a solid college QB, but pretty much at no point was he such a dominant athlete that he looked like a man playing with boys. Suh and Barry Sanders both gave that impression regularly, like they were playing a different game that everyone else on the field had no clue how to compete with them.

He was basically the same as Colin Klein at K-state this year. Not flashy, rarely did anything to make your jaw drop and make you question if you really saw what you just saw, but very consistently good and a winner. And theres nothing wrong with that, that's a very good college player that anyone would love to have on their team. It's just not a legendary, once in a generation freak of an athlete like Suh or Sanders.
 
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When it's third and a few and he's in the backfield and you know exactly what he's going to do, and he does it anyway, how is that not domination? I think you all forget outside of Harvin there wasn't a real playmaker on any of his offenses. When it looked like a drive would sputter he did regularly take it upon himself to extend it, and everyone knew that's what would happen and tried to stop him, and couldn't. Again how is that not domination?
 

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He averaged 4.3 YPC in college, that's an extremely pedestrian number at that level. He was never dominate. He was a great college player and won a lot of games, but you know who else just had a Tim Tebow-esque season, besides Klein? Braxton Miller. He ran more (and much more efficiently), and passed less.

Know who else was pretty good in college? Alex Smith. I wonder if Urban Meyer has anything to do this with?

Alex as a senior
631 rushing yards, 10 tds
2950 passing yards, 32 tds 4int

Tebow as a senior
910 rushing yards, 14tds
2895 passing yards, 21 tds 5 int

And before you compare conferences, it's not like Smith was playing with 5 star recruits blocking for him and running and catching the ball for him. Even playing field really + tiny hands
 
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I'm not going to argue Sanders, he was a phenom all the way through 10 NFL seasons on a shitty team. But Suh arguably isnt even the best DL from his own decade. Terrell Suggs had better numbers in single season and career.

Tebow's best season wasn't his Sr year, btw.
 

Foggy

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Vince Young was better than all of the players yall are talking about. Just putting that out there again.
 

Genjiro

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Joeboo has a point.

Suh took over games from a position that does not do so, ever.