CFB 2013-2014
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http://espn.go.com/college-football/...otball-program
Looks like Chip learned a lot of tricks from Pete. Commit violations and bolt to the pros! Oregon self imposed 2 year probation etc.
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Looks like Chip learned a lot of tricks from Pete. Commit violations and bolt to the pros! Oregon self imposed 2 year probation etc.
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But what is the solution?
The Eagles don't care - they want to win and decided Kelly was the best available for their situation. The school, football program and (unfairly) the players will be punished, but if no one gets punished there is even less incentive to comply with the rules. With how relatively rare success is, there isn't much incentive for the AD and school to ensure compliance if cheating gets you into the title game.
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They can slap the same deal on Chip that Tressel got, if he goes to another school his punishment follows him which is why he isn't coaching. Would effectively end him from ever coaching in college again after his NFL career is up.
Oregon is self imposing a penalty but I'm not sure the NCAA is going to let that go, most times they will if it's a minor infraction but one of them is listed as a major infraction and you normally don't get to self impose on those.
Oregon is self imposing a penalty but I'm not sure the NCAA is going to let that go, most times they will if it's a minor infraction but one of them is listed as a major infraction and you normally don't get to self impose on those.
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He's scheduled to make $32.5 million with the Eagles, most, if not all, guaranteed. If he's a good coach at the NFL level, there is little reason to go back down to college (just look at how teams recycle coaches). If he's willing to make less, he could be a position coach or coordinator at the pro level. I understand that there are coaches who fail at (or just don't like) the NFL level and return to college and are successful, but that doesn't seem like a risky gamble if it comes with $32.5 million.
NCAA violations will never be subject to criminal punishment (nor should they), so unless the NFL is going to agree to be bound by NCAA rulings and enforce their bans, it's not going to do anything. And when you are talking about $120+ million being paid out in player salaries and owner profits in large part tied to team success, why would the NFL owners agree to that? Same for the players. Barring spy-gate style cheating which could indicate that coach was not as good at his job as his results indicate, should the NFL even care about recruiting violations, scholarship issues, and other violations that aren't, strictly speaking, football X and O related?
Yes, Goodell extended Terrelle Pryor's ban to the pro level, but he still got paid 11 game checks compared to making zero in college, so that's a win for him. Tressel was no different, and I believe he voluntarily sat 6 games.
It's a generally interesting problem. There is just too much money involved.
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The solution is replace the NCAA with something that can actually do its job. The NCAA has be aware of Oregon's violations for what, two years now? Why the fuck is it taking so long?
Yahoo is infinitely better at investigating violations, it often takes them bringing it to light for the NCAA to even do anything. It is a corrupt and incompetent organization.
If you really want to stop cheating then the legislators need to step in and make paying college athletes against the law so any investigative body has the power of the courts and the people with money that make breaking the rules possible actually face real punishment.
Yahoo is infinitely better at investigating violations, it often takes them bringing it to light for the NCAA to even do anything. It is a corrupt and incompetent organization.
If you really want to stop cheating then the legislators need to step in and make paying college athletes against the law so any investigative body has the power of the courts and the people with money that make breaking the rules possible actually face real punishment.
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I woldn't throw yahoo out there as the leader of investigations. I believe the person who did the thing on the Auburn drug deal was the same person who lead the charge on the Duke Lacrosse scandal that turned out to be bunk, and much of the story on Auburn turned out to be bunk since they were in the trials to develop a drug test for synthetic marijuana.
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An NCAA charge shouldn't have any bearing on the NFL. If it needs to extend to the NFL then it would have to be something crimminal like inappropriate behavior, not gaming the NCAA system. Throwing the judgement against him that will stick if he goes to another NCAA school is as far as the NCAA should go, it effectively bans him from college football for life (or X number of years as is the case for Tressel).
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The NCAA is a joke and the clock is ticking before the whole thing gets blown up anyway. Between the O'Bannion and McNair cases, assuming neither settle, the NCAA is going to get it's ass handed to it so badly that the major conferences are going to have no choice but to figure out a viable alternative.
Edit: The Oregon thing isn't that bad at least compared to Miami who at this point looks like it's going to get off scot free while Oregon gets a slap on the wrist and USC is still stuck with shit.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...-its-sanctions
Edit: The Oregon thing isn't that bad at least compared to Miami who at this point looks like it's going to get off scot free while Oregon gets a slap on the wrist and USC is still stuck with shit.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...-its-sanctions
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Rut roh, our Sugar Daddy the Governor's son who owns the Browns is in trouble with the FBI. This will not end well.
http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index...rt_maj-story-1
http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index...rt_maj-story-1
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In a shocking twist, the entire ACC signed a granting of rights today. This is really shitty. We are stuck with the Big 10, Pac 12, Big 12, ACC, and SEC as they are currently constituted for the foreseeable future. Not sure what schools like UNC, Clemson, and Florida State are thinking.
SEC has never signed one... yet.. Its the only power conference to not have signed one at this point.
Big 12 going off the denial deep end.
http://www.tulsaworld.com/article.as...u441551?subj=2
Yeah Bob. Let's judge conference success by the teams you want and not by the teams pushing your shit in every time the opportunity arises.
P.S. Nice Spider Egg Farm growing on that cheek.
http://www.tulsaworld.com/article.as...u441551?subj=2
Yeah Bob. Let's judge conference success by the teams you want and not by the teams pushing your shit in every time the opportunity arises.
P.S. Nice Spider Egg Farm growing on that cheek.
Comments from that article are pretty golden aswell. Hey guys, Weeden and Blackmon would have crushed Alabama 2 years ago!!!!!
I guess we'll find out opening weekend though. OSU(Top 3 Big 12 Team!) vs Miss State ( Anywhere from 6-10th in SEC) and TCU ( Top 3 Big 12) against LSU ( Chris Lowe has them as the 6th best SEC team this year in the way too early rankings!).
Honestly dont think State will pull it out(Which hurts to say), but I LSU probably wins that game(especially if Hill comes back from suspension)
I guess we'll find out opening weekend though. OSU(Top 3 Big 12 Team!) vs Miss State ( Anywhere from 6-10th in SEC) and TCU ( Top 3 Big 12) against LSU ( Chris Lowe has them as the 6th best SEC team this year in the way too early rankings!).
Honestly dont think State will pull it out(Which hurts to say), but I LSU probably wins that game(especially if Hill comes back from suspension)
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According to Football Outsiders the SEC is the best top to bottom conference.
http://www.sbnation.com/college-foot...compared-depth
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Nice to point out that a coach with a winning record left for another job, and equate that to the SEC firing coaches that were wasting the conference's time. But hey, Kansas isn't really a football school so it doesn't matter, right?Tulsa World Article_sl said: