Foggy
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Definitely possible, but you don't play Oregon. You don't play anybody because the Big 10 is a steaming pile of shit. That is why both those teams might jump you, despite being undefeated.
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Name one conference that isn't shit, and absolutely. Nobody has played nobody. There's nobody that deserves #1 based onthisyear's body of work. If you place Bama at #1 based on last year, then you place OSU at #2 based on last year.
They won't and they shouldn't.
Joeboo
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As a frame of reference, Ohio State plays a total of 1 team that is currently in the top 25(Wisconsin, who is 24th). They'll probably get a 2nd in the Big 10 title game against Michigan St.
This will be Stanfords 5th win against a top 25 team. And they still have probably 2 more, Notre Dame at the end of the year and then a ranked UCLA or Arizona St in the Pac 12 title game.
Ohio St - 1 ranked team out of 12 regular season games.
Stanford - 6 ranked teams out of 12 regular season games.
I'd put Stanford above them, even with 1 bad loss
I'd keep Stanford ahead of Baylor too. This was Baylors first win over a ranked team this year.
This will be Stanfords 5th win against a top 25 team. And they still have probably 2 more, Notre Dame at the end of the year and then a ranked UCLA or Arizona St in the Pac 12 title game.
Ohio St - 1 ranked team out of 12 regular season games.
Stanford - 6 ranked teams out of 12 regular season games.
I'd put Stanford above them, even with 1 bad loss
I'd keep Stanford ahead of Baylor too. This was Baylors first win over a ranked team this year.
This current Ohio State team would steamroll the entire PAC12 put together. And they have before. That's not an issue. The issue with the polling is self-reinforcing. MSU should be in the top 10, but with the way the preseason sets up the SEC, we have a 10 loss Georgia team stick around in the top 15 for weeks on end, so when they drop, they don't drop out of the top 25, which lets you use worthless stats like that.
Joeboo
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In any 1 individual game, Ohio St might be favored, but give them 5 games against ranked teams over a 7 week period, and they're dropping one, if not more. It's more about the grind week-in and week-out against quality teams. There's no off week(or multiple ones to rest up) this year in the Pac 12 and SEC. Those 2 conferences are head and shoulders above everyone else this year. It's not even close.
A 1-loss team out of the Pac or SEC should be ranked ahead of and undefeated Ohio State at the end of the year.
A 1-loss team out of the Pac or SEC should be ranked ahead of and undefeated Ohio State at the end of the year.
Wisky beat ASU. MSU could beat anyone in the PAC12 outside of Stanford. There's parity that's not reflecting in the self-fulfilling destiny of polling flawed by the original preseason polls. Half, or even all, of those SEC teams didn't belong as high as they were preseason. So when they lose 10 games like Georgia, they don't drop as far as they deserve. Then you have a team like MSU that isn't as high as they should've been or should be now. That's why your stats are worthless.
Bama has done nothing this year. A&M is terribad, and that's all they've beaten. They in no way deserve to be #1 by your logic.
Joeboo
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There were 5 B10 teams ranked in the pre-season AP poll. The SEC was the only conference with more. Don't give me the "we didn't get respected in the polls and we've had to claw our way up" argument, because it's completely invalid. All the teams fell out of the polls because they all started losing, and kept losing. The Big 10 may be having it's worst year that I can ever remember. It's WAY worse than the ACC this year. Just think about that for a second.
Christ, Minnesota might be the 3rd best team in the conference this year. Minne-freaking-sota. They've finished a season above .500 once in the last 7 years.
Look at how far Big10 teams dropped compared to SEC teams when they lost. If you don't know, I can tell you. And once I tell you, you'll probably laugh.
Still waiting on why Bama deserves to be #1.
Still waiting on why Bama deserves to be #1.
Why Alabama deserves absolutely nothing:
Meanwhile OSU's victories are consistently devalued despite coming against 5 teams with .500 or better records and two of the best defenses in the nation statistically: Wisconsin (6th) and Iowa (13th).
Why Oregon deserves absolutely nothing outside of the anal rape tonight:
Alabama and Oregon have played just 5 teams with winning records and only two teams currently ranked in the top 25 COMBINED. Those are resumes national outlets find "impressive".
Meanwhile OSU's victories are consistently devalued despite coming against 5 teams with .500 or better records and two of the best defenses in the nation statistically: Wisconsin (6th) and Iowa (13th).
Joeboo
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Alabama gets the benefit of the doubt because they won the last 2 national titles. They're #1 until they lose.
Everyone else has to prove themselves, and so far this year Florida St and Stanford have done the best jobs of that. Baylor and Ohio St have pretty looking records that have been gained against absolutely no competition of note.
Everyone else has to prove themselves, and so far this year Florida St and Stanford have done the best jobs of that. Baylor and Ohio St have pretty looking records that have been gained against absolutely no competition of note.
If you're going by last year, then you apply that consistently. So OSU should remain at #2.
Joeboo
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No. Ohio St didn't win anything of note last year, they get no credit of any kind for last year. No conference championship, no bowl game, etc.
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