Cruises: Good Value Vacation or White Trash Rafts?

Skanda said:

Of course not, that would take intelligence.

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Than, yours and abbreviations all used correctly

I'm v intelligent btw

trex said:

I'm v intelligent btw

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You live in Portland. They tell everyone that so you don't feel bad about yourself. In the real world you barely rate higher than a mouth breathing mongoloid. Just barely smart enough to bash at a keyboard in a poor attempt at butchering the English language.

trex said:

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SAVE US AKU



Phew. Crisis averted.

AngryGerbil said:

The Greatest Generation

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What must the audience be thinking watching that? I'd probably leave.

trex said:

I'm v intelligent btw

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If you have to tell the people with whom you are interacting that you're intelligent, you aren't. But keep trying!

So back to the festival, someone who attended is doing an AMA about it:

I'm a 35 y/o Fyre Festival attendee AMA

$750 a ticket ain't bad for the way this was sold.

We signed up ~12 hours after it was first announced. At that time, there was no information about music/artists, and I don't recall Ja Rule's name being used prominently. If it was, that shows how much weight we gave his name.

When we bought our tickets, it was $750 each for "private plane flights to/from a private island, food & lodging included". We decided to do this as our vacation, and considering everything that was included, it was a great deal. They also allowed the tickets to be paid over six months for free.

The non-discounted price made sense for what was included, so there was no feeling of "it's too cheap to be true". We figured if it was terrible or didn't match the marketing, we could file a credit card dispute. No one expected the organizers to create a dangerous situation.

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Surprise surprise, they didn't pay their workers.

I'll update this one once I get to a keyboard, but the worst thing I saw was probably the group of 10-12 local workers who had surrounded one organizer and kept yelling "I NEED MONEY, WHERE IS MY MONEY". That's when the situation started to feel dangerous. All the attendees had iPhones, laptops, cameras, etc, and the workers were eyeballing all these kids laying around.

A couple of the workers were getting physical, so some security guard broke up the dispute by slowly driving a truck through the group, forcing them to move so the organizer could go back inside.

The workers went to the bar and took a bunch of bottles of Hennessy, I assume as temporary payment.

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Regarding the "refunds", I have a feeling the moneys already been spent and they're not coming.

They sent a hilarious email this morning asking us to fill out a Typekit form to start our refund. They also warned that they wouldn't refund any transactions which were disputed unless we cancel the credit card dispute. If they don't refund in a week we'll just dispute the transaction.

The best part of the form was an offer for complimentary VIP passes to Fyre 2018, followed by the suggestion to "LET IT RIDE" and convert our refund into additional 2018 tickets!

I'm feeling lucky...

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Will people go to jail over this?

lurkingdirk said:

If you have to tell the people with whom you are interacting that you're intelligent, you aren't. But keep trying!

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At least I have something better to do with my life than follow around some girl I claim to hate on a message board and pick at every single one of her posts.

Get a life fgt

AngryGerbil said:

Will people go to jail over this?

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The short of it is, as long as the scammer provided a phone number (he did) and provided support and continuous support throughout the ordeal (he did) its not a criminal matter. As long as he remains in contact with everyone and continues to provide support I don't see anything happening.

Even if that support amounts to explaining their policies, denying them refunds, and explaining the services rendered...as long as he is communicating, its difficult to hook someone on fraud.

I know of many credit scammers who operate quasi-legit businesses and that's how its done from my understanding. You run a legitimate face, you make "legitimate" statements, you can literally overbill and rip someone off and the worst thing that can happen to the credit scammer is that they will have their merchant account closed by Visa. But if the scammer is willing to claim that they did X Y Z for you, sometimes they can continue to operate for another 30-60 days and make another six figures. And when they are finally stopped, nothing really happens unless there is a whistleblower. If a fraudster has an air-tight business with air-tight employees, and he is signing affidavits that say the exact opposite of what the customer claims, it becomes a draw. It sucks but that's real life.

You need that whistleblower, a live talking witness who is privy to private conversations with the fraudster. I.E. a business partner in order to make a case for criminal intent.

This is no different than credit fraud to me, which is even more serious an offense (malicious overbilling and lying in affidavits saying the customer agreed to the services). Not much can be done when someone is willing to be a complete worm.

trex said:

At least I have something better to do with my life than follow around some girl I claim to hate on a message board and pick at every single one of her posts.

Get a life fgt

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Yes, instead of you being an insecure twat, the issue is clearly me following you around, and being a fgt. Good catch.

Araysar said:

Sounds like a bunch of salty fuckers here, butthurt from never being invited to the cool parties, gleeful that some Millennials got their "comeuppance"

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If it weren't for these dumbass liberal kids freeloading I'd be successful

This is just typical human behavior winning over sound logic. Very few people have a healthy enough sense of skepticism. Rushing in and buying tickets without knowing details is not something a cautious person would do but then again I don't understand people who rack up thousands in cc debt either. Why would u buy stupid shit when you know you can't pay for it? Yet thousands of people do this dumb shit.

What I *really* can't wrap my head around is who pays this much for a concert with blink 182 headlining? Who's even paid any attention to them in a decade

Matt Skiba was a fantastic addition to blink 182 and I definitely attribute their newest album to having him come play guitar for them

also this whole festival who cares a bunch of rich kids went and wanted to have a good time

hilarious how it turned out though