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I don't care how culturally acceptable they are or aren't; they make girls uglier 99% of the time.
Comical to me how he's upset we're not "culturally accepting" what he thinks is already culturally acceptable.

You can put dumb shit on your skin, color your hair purple, put metal in your face, or whatever other body customization YOU think looks great, and thats awesome, enjoy, have a nice time.

WE are perfectly allowed to think you look stupid and not date you, interact with you, hire you, etc etc.

Just like you're perfectly free to do the same with people lacking tattoos if you like. Don't push your fucking opinion about whats attractive or acceptable on us.
 
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Yeah, but you’re making unreasonable leaps to make what I said seem less reasonable.
I don't understand this response. All I did was point out other things that this "culture" accepts, and demands we accept.

It casts "culturally acceptable" in a different light, but thats not some kind of rhetorical trick. Thats just the truth of the statement hitting you.
 
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Think I may have encountered a woman under 30 who doesnt care to text.

Originally got this coworkers number so I could send her a picture of something on my phone when I didnt have it on me. Month goes by with her never responding to the message but thought nothing of it.

Well two weeks ago I ask her out. Send her a straight forward text "Would you like to get a drink 7pm Sunday at xyz?". No response that day after asking her. Wake up the next morning to a text from her saying she works that day but tells me what her schedule is. Okay obvious layup to ask her out on a day shes not working so I do. No response the rest of the day. Wake up again to another text from her saying this Friday isnt good for her so how about the following Friday. I say sounds good you seem worth the wait. No response.

Friendly and talkative as usual at work but over a week goes by with her not texting me back. Has me thinking did this woman give me a really soft rejection or was she serious so I send her a text asking if her if were still on for Friday. Responds with nothing more than "Yes! 7pm at xyz".

Friday afternoon comes by so I send her a text telling her where to meet at exactly. Says great ill see you there. Actually ended up having to change where we went as there was an event and parking as a major pita. Meet up with her where she parked and she was dressed surprisingly nice, clearly taking this seriously. Ends up being a pretty good date, lasts for almost 4 hours, plenty of physical contact, setup a second date this weekend and kissed her and felt her up a little bit at the end.

She did text me after she got home saying she had a great time and looks forward to this weekend but beyond that not much. Aside from confirming a time to pick her up Saturday shes only sent 3-4 text.

A little jarring just because every other woman ive talked to that was interested me in was fairly texty. It is nice to get any awkward good morning texts but so used to it makes me go hmmm. Though maybe shes perfectly healthy and just warming up to be communicative like a well adjusted person normally does.
 
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30and under just means they're using Snapchat or whatever the fuck has replaced snap chat. My daughter hardly responds to texts but is still on her phone all of the time with her friends. Regular texting just means you're an old.
 
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I found my now wife on Bumble.

It was always the app I had the most success with. On average, the women there are a lot more "mature".

Yeah, Bumble is also the one that worked best for me. Women having to make the first move makes a huge difference in terms of them actually giving a shit.

Met my new wife at work, because organically seems to be the best way for that shit to work. If she doesn't look at you instantly and think you're hot, you've got a work too hard.

True that, and on the other end of the spectrum, if a girl really likes you, it's amazing how easy everything is. I've done both (pursuing/working for it and being welcomed with open arms) lots, and the easy route is preferable every time. Especially as you get older.
 

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Yeah, Bumble is also the one that worked best for me. Women having to make the first move makes a huge difference in terms of them actually giving a shit.
Bingo. Right off the bat their investment level is already "higher" than yours.
 

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Guys too, I got lawyers coming to court with tattoos going up their neck high enough to be seen poking out of a shirt and tie.

I really do not understand tattoos at all. It seems to me to just be an example of peer pressure/trying to be different by being the same/poor impulse control/obsessive or addictive personality, none of which are attractive.

For some its occupational. My boss' entire career is substantiated by tattooing firemen, police, vets. In cases such as theirs it has been or became popular to get heavily tattooed.

My clientele's different, and yes. For a lot of them it is 'therapeutic'. I understand the mentality to a certain degree; there is a certain presence of mind that comes with being in pain, but I don't see how it could have any long term benefits.
For a lot of my female clientele, they fall into 1 of 2 camps. One is the 20-30 something crowd who, for one reason or another, fell into a certain scene, and it is popular for girls of that scene to get heavily tattooed. It may have been bikers' bitches back in the day but nowadays it is apropos to metal girls to get tattooed and that's been becoming increasingly true since the Myspace days.
The other, arguably more respectable camp- women who get tattoos for their family or kids. It is my bread and butter to do floral birthday bouquets or memorial tattoos. That became normalized, at least around here, that even a suburban mom might have a big ole tattoo if she's celebrating the existence of her three kids.

I don't work much with the bluehair safe-space LGBT+ lunatics or alt kids. They're the ones that are the most immoderate with their tattoos but for some reason I do not get approached by trannies/crazies/druggies for getting work done, probably because they don't like things like eye contact or conversations that don't revolve around their mental illness.
 
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The other, arguably more respectable camp- women who get tattoos for their family or kids. It is my bread and butter to do floral birthday bouquets or memorial tattoos. That became normalized, at least around here, that even a suburban mom might have a big ole tattoo if she's celebrating the existence of her three kids.

See, I get this; and the girl that I am most interested in currently actually has 3 small tattoos. The kicker is that you would not be able to see any of them unless she was in a bikini.

The amount of women I see on these apps that have near half-fucking sleeves that cannot be hidden by anything but actual winter wear (in motherfucking HOUSTON) is at least 30% and may be closer to 50%. For reference, my match age starts at 34.

One separate but parallel observation: Tinder is chocked full of uggos, in Houston at least. There are about 5 girls on there that I would even be interested in talking to at any level. It is awful.
 

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for some reason I do not get approached by trannies/crazies/druggies for getting work done, probably because they don't like things like eye contact or conversations that don't revolve around their mental illness.

LOL, ain't that the truth. At this point I can pretty much immediately tell who the mentally ill / rage-filled political people are from visual identifiers, and don't even bother trying to communicate. They wear it on their sleeve more than ever, probably the result of a decade of nobody being allowed to bully them anymore.
 

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Think I may have encountered a woman under 30 who doesnt care to text.

Originally got this coworkers number so I could send her a picture of something on my phone when I didnt have it on me. Month goes by with her never responding to the message but thought nothing of it.

Well two weeks ago I ask her out. Send her a straight forward text "Would you like to get a drink 7pm Sunday at xyz?". No response that day after asking her. Wake up the next morning to a text from her saying she works that day but tells me what her schedule is. Okay obvious layup to ask her out on a day shes not working so I do. No response the rest of the day. Wake up again to another text from her saying this Friday isnt good for her so how about the following Friday. I say sounds good you seem worth the wait. No response.

Friendly and talkative as usual at work but over a week goes by with her not texting me back. Has me thinking did this woman give me a really soft rejection or was she serious so I send her a text asking if her if were still on for Friday. Responds with nothing more than "Yes! 7pm at xyz".

Friday afternoon comes by so I send her a text telling her where to meet at exactly. Says great ill see you there. Actually ended up having to change where we went as there was an event and parking as a major pita. Meet up with her where she parked and she was dressed surprisingly nice, clearly taking this seriously. Ends up being a pretty good date, lasts for almost 4 hours, plenty of physical contact, setup a second date this weekend and kissed her and felt her up a little bit at the end.

She did text me after she got home saying she had a great time and looks forward to this weekend but beyond that not much. Aside from confirming a time to pick her up Saturday shes only sent 3-4 text.

A little jarring just because every other woman ive talked to that was interested me in was fairly texty. It is nice to get any awkward good morning texts but so used to it makes me go hmmm. Though maybe shes perfectly healthy and just warming up to be communicative like a well adjusted person normally does.

Not sure what that means when a woman acts like that. It's kind of baffling.

Story Time with Raj: Had a similar experience with a 27 year old back in 2014 or so. She was a ten in every regard, for me at least. Looked like a young Olivia Munn and was smart as hell, told me Obama was an empty suit and I should stop expecting much out of him, thought we needed a "Ron Paul type" to come in and overturn the whole political apparatus. Fantastic at everything physically, was fun and passionate. Carried herself super-well, everyone who met her seemed to instantly be a fan. Probably my favorite girl I ever dated short-term (too short, unfortunately). Met her through her sister, who I went to school with. She was in grad school herself.

We went on a couple dates and they were amazing (we could talk for 7 hours straight and have it never get the least bit dull, and would be together until like 4 in the morning on school nights), but her texting was atrocious. She'd take about an entire day to respond to things, would give these short answers and not follow up until I pressed. Then I'd see her again and it'd go great, I'd text her I had fun, then get nothing for three days. Then she'd send a "I had fun too, can't wait to do that again" and then nada. I'd text and ask if she was free the next weekend and would get no response until after the weekend was over, saying sorry she had been super busy. At that point I kinda gave up and figured she was sending me "go away" hints, so I stopped texting her and never heard anything else. She wasn't meeting me halfway, hell, she wasn't even meeting me 10% of the way.

Couple years later I ran into her during a friend get together and we ended up hanging out one-on-one for a while and having dinner, then sitting outside on a park bench, making out. Realized I was still as into her as I used to be. I told her about how I liked her, but also that I basically gave up on her before because she didn't answer shit and gave me the impression she wanted me to go away. She said, and I quote, "No, I liked you too, you just needed to be more aggressive with me". So...text her more when she's giving me the impression she either doesn't care or I'm bothering her? Wat?

Goddamn, chasing and I don't mix anymore, confusion and I mix even less.

Anyway the next day I texted her how good it was to see her again and I'd like to go out with her that weekend if she was free. No response...ever. LOL.

Saw her again a couple years later at an event her sister invited me to. Hung out, had fun, didn't even try anything, didn't care anymore (I was with someone then anyway). There was another guy there who'd been hanging out with her as a buddy and was losing his mind because he liked her so much and didn't know how to broach the subject or if she'd reciprocate. Me and another guy were talking to him about it over beers, trying to offer advice. Turned out she gave him zero hints of any kind of attraction, and he felt like she didn't care, so he was apprehensive about taking any kind of action. Meanwhile she was on the other side of the room talking to this buff guy with a motorcycle and playing with her hair.

I advised Captain Friendzone McBeta to not even bother. Two minutes later she comes over and talks to him... while leaning back onto me, pressing her entire body against me while I rested my chin on top of her head and looked off into space. Case in point. Never saw her again after that party. Still might be my favorite girl I ever dated... while we were actually around each other, but goddamn, it was like she lacked any object permanence once I was out of sight.

Writing it all down, I actually kinda see what she meant though. She probably wanted me to take her if I wanted her and didn't do wishy-washy stuff. She gave me all the physical green lights multiple times over and it was my turn to seize the day (and her). However, if I didn't, no biggie. She might not have seen me as anything serious, hell she might not have seen anybody as anything serious. She was usually a loner from what I heard from people, with the occasional hookups.

Wonder what she's doing now. She'd be 38 or so. Last time I saw her she was about 32 and still gorgeous. Maybe I should give her a call (lol a text would sit on "read" for 3 weeks).

Zero object permanence though... da hell.
 

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And funny enough she texted me a few hours after I made that post saying she has to cancel her plans this week and she's sick and went to the ER that day. She did miss the last two days of work so will be interesting if she follows up to reschedule.
30and under just means they're using Snapchat or whatever the fuck has replaced snap chat. My daughter hardly responds to texts but is still on her phone all of the time with her friends. Regular texting just means you're an old.
Dont think that's the case here. While out she only took her phone out while I went to the bathroom and as I was sitting back down I could see she texting someone.

She said, and I quote, "No, I liked you too, you just needed to be more aggressive with me". So...text her more when she's giving me the impression she either doesn't care or I'm bothering her? Wat?

Goddamn, chasing and I don't mix anymore, confusion and I mix even less.
That's the kind of shit that makes me not want to date. Think things are going good but in reality you're failing to solve the rubix cube you didn't know you where supposed to be solving.
 
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And funny enough she texted me a few hours after I made that post saying she has to cancel her plans this week and she's sick and went to the ER that day. She did miss the last two days of work so will be interesting if she follows up to reschedule.

Dont think that's the case here. While out she only took her phone out while I went to the bathroom and as I was sitting back down I could see she texting someone.


That's the kind of shit that makes me not want to date. Think things are going good but in reality you're failing to solve the rubix cube you didn't know you where supposed to be solving.
Shes just not that into you bro. It was something for her to do at the time. If she really was interested she wouldnt wait days between texts and keep cancelling.

Also dont date coworkers, dumbest choice you could make.
 
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Think I may have encountered a woman under 30 who doesnt care to text.

Have you asked her? Maybe she just prefers phone calls. For all you know she could be dyslexic and therefore hates texting.

Looked like a young Olivia Munn and was smart as hell, told me Obama was an empty suit and I should stop expecting much out of him, thought we needed a "Ron Paul type" to come in and overturn the whole political apparatus.
Why didn't you put a baby in her?

Actually, I'm glad you didn't. Leave that womb for a more worthy male.
 

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And funny enough she texted me a few hours after I made that post saying she has to cancel her plans this week and she's sick and went to the ER that day. She did miss the last two days of work so will be interesting if she follows up to reschedule.

Dont think that's the case here. While out she only took her phone out while I went to the bathroom and as I was sitting back down I could see she texting someone.


That's the kind of shit that makes me not want to date. Think things are going good but in reality you're failing to solve the rubix cube you didn't know you where supposed to be solving.
Women will move heaven and earth to be around a man they think might be their greater.

Her interest level seems extremely low/non-existent.
 
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Women will move heaven and earth to be around a man they think might be their greater.

Her interest level seems extremely low/non-existent.
Yeah that's my view as well, it's always very clear.

But she also drove an hour over to my side of town to get drinks and never suggested a place closer to her. Could have easily cut the date short but stayed almost 4 hours after multiple places closed.

Have you asked her? Maybe she just prefers phone calls. For all you know she could be dyslexic and therefore hates texting.
I mentioned it and she said she's just not a big texter.

Big P straight up sounding like a stalker.
Stalker? Come on this is the grown up section. What I have I possibly done that approaches stalking?
 
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I mentioned it and she said she's just not a big texter.
So start calling her. She could be lying or she could have a good reason she doesn't want to tell you yet. I know it's not the same because you can't call her every time you think about her throughout the day, but it's probably going to be worth it to get a woman who's brain hasn't been rotted by her phone yet.
 

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