Depression

moonarchia said:

Force yourself to at least stretch while you are in the middle of all this. Otherwise take heart that it's also an effective diet.

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I'm doing it man. I'm walking a few kilometers a day. And the trouble is, I don't have weight to lose. I'm 6'2" and I'm currently at 160 pounds.

But today I was able to sit outside while it was just 65 degrees in the sun. I sat next to my pond, listened to the water splashing, the frogs going crazy, and watched a family of ducks swim about. This ability to take the time to sit and enjoy my surroundings is perhaps the greatest balm for depression that I have personally encountered. No rush on my time, and beautiful surroundings.

lurkingdirk said:

I'm doing it man. I'm walking a few kilometers a day. And the trouble is, I don't have weight to lose. I'm 6'2" and I'm currently at 160 pounds.

But today I was able to sit outside while it was just 65 degrees in the sun. I sat next to my pond, listened to the water splashing, the frogs going crazy, and watched a family of ducks swim about. This ability to take the time to sit and enjoy my surroundings is perhaps the greatest balm for depression that I have personally encountered. No rush on my time, and beautiful surroundings.

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Force yourself to eat then, too. Or drink your calories. Milkshakes and smoothies etc. Protein might be tough, but you can still get good carbs and water to help keep you going.

moonarchia said:

Force yourself to eat then, too. Or drink your calories. Milkshakes and smoothies etc. Protein might be tough, but you can still get good carbs and water to help keep you going.

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My son is making a lot of milkshakes for me with fruit from the garden. I'm working on it man. Taking in all I can. Protein included.

lurkingdirk said:

My son is making a lot of milkshakes for me with fruit from the garden. I'm working on it man. Taking in all I can. Protein included.

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Good luck! Kick cancer in the dick!

My training buddy for 3 years (on a crossfit-like team) appears to have killed himself. He was one of those very extroverted people, upbeat and talking to everyone at the gym. Everyone knew him and liked him. Suddenly he stopped showing up, and only answered messages after days, with very vague answers. After a month or so he read them, but stopped responding. After another month he didn't read the messages. Multiple people sent him messages, but no answers for anyone.

After a while I found his sister online, and asked if she knew anyting. She said she only had very few words, but that she had lost her beloved big brother. Yesterday I learned that he had told the trainer (a woman) that life was hard for him and he didn't know what to do with himself and the future. I know he badly wanted kids, but he was not very attractive (sorry dude) and more the kind women would talk to at the gym, but probably never date. One of the dispensable men of our time. 40 years old.

Just a personal story, not really of interest to anyone who didn't know him. But it seems this thread was a suitable place to vent a little.

lurkingdirk said:

My son is making a lot of milkshakes for me with fruit from the garden. I'm working on it man. Taking in all I can. Protein included.

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Also, Willow Tree Cranberry Walnut Chicken Salad is like 300 calories a fucking spoonful. My wife lost her appetite as well and I could at least make her do that periodically and it wasn't like staring a whole sandwich down which was just too daunting.

Also weed.

lurkingdirk said:

Chemo making it so I shouldn't go out in public much, killing my strength and appetite. I feel like shite all the time. Definite depression creeping in. I think if I let myself I could stay in bed all damned day.

But there is an end in sight, so I try to focus on that.

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My buddy of 20 some years of Everquest made it thru chemo hell, and wouldn't wish it on anyone.

He's good now, so rest when you can and hold on till it's over. I'll send one up to whatever deity created us that the clowns hate for ya.

Is there a name for a condition that’s like the opposite of entitled?

like where you obey all the rules, laws and traditions of society and get nowhere, then you look around and you see other people who don’t obey all of the above and are constantly being rewarded?

TheNozz said:

Is there a name for a condition that’s like the opposite of entitled?

like where you obey all the rules, laws and traditions of society and get nowhere, then you look around and you see other people who don’t obey all of the above and are constantly being rewarded?

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I'm really struggling with alcoholism. Fucked up really bad last night but somehow I'm alive and not sitting in jail. I deserve worse and the people in my life deserve better. I definitely need help but I don't know where to start.

TheBeagle said:

I'm really struggling with alcoholism. Fucked up really bad last night but somehow I'm alive and not sitting in jail. I deserve worse and the people in my life deserve better. I definitely need help but I don't know where to start.

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Find a hobby you love that keeps you away from the couch. If you aren't super overweight pick up a decent hardtail mountain bike and find local trails. Chasing the progression is waaay better than drinking and therapy all in one. After a week or so of hard but fun exercise drinking will only make you feel like shit.

Just don't do the shit that others make look easy because it ain't take it slow and try not to get hurt.

Hatorade said:

Find a hobby you love that keeps you away from the couch. If you aren't super overweight pick up a decent hardtail mountain bike and find local trails. Chasing the progression is waaay better than drinking and therapy all in one. After a week or so of hard but fun exercise drinking will only make you feel like shit.

Just don't do the shit that others make look easy because it ain't take it slow and try not to get hurt.

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Alternatively, pick up 40k because you won't be able to afford alcohol.

Palum said:

Alternatively, pick up 40k because you won't be able to afford alcohol.

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I mean...same could be said for biking. 3k for top of the line hardtail, plus gear etc.

TheBeagle said:

I'm really struggling with alcoholism. Fucked up really bad last night but somehow I'm alive and not sitting in jail. I deserve worse and the people in my life deserve better. I definitely need help but I don't know where to start.

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I'm not convinced there is anything anyone can do or say to help. A lot of these things, depression, alchoholism. At least for me there needed to be a fucking metanoia of sorts. Something life altering where you just say, ok this is what I want out of the rest of my life, and I'm going to completely change every aspect of my lifestyle. Maybe something scares you, maybe someone dies, maybe you just walk outside and see the sunrise and some chemicals in your brain make you come to the realization from this day onward you are reborn. People can say things and try to help, but it needs to be you.