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Any prebuilt gaming PCs worth getting or am I building one again?

Linus did a whole series on prebuilts recently.

TLDR: For $1500, you'll get maybe $1000 worth of hardware, and in the case of Dell/HP/Origin PC specialized cases limiting upgrade paths. IbuypowerPC and Maingear use mainstream components for self upgrading down the line. If you're capable of building a PC yourself, and/or have some components you can carry over to a new builds like PSU/Case/HDD then building is totally worth it.

 
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Linus did some videos recently on prebuild companies that might be helpful.

Link? He vids are all click bait titles.

NM. Thanks.

PC part picker wins again, no to start the process of figuring out what motherboard to start with.
 
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no to start the process of figuring out what motherboard to start with.

Are you going AMD or Intel? Depending on which lookup VRM tier lists, if Intel get a Z390 Gigabyte Aorus Elite, if z370 Asrock Extreme4. I don't know AMD side.
 

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Are you going AMD or Intel? Depending on which lookup VRM tier lists, if Intel get a Z390 Gigabyte Aorus Elite, if z370 Asrock Extreme4. I don't know AMD side.

Intel, I9s worth it? Or stick with I7s?
Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor
seems to be best bang for buck right now.
 
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i7-8700k, or i7-9700k is the sweet spot for Intel, i9 is overkill. 8700 is 6 cores, 12 threads vs 9700 is 8 cores 8 threads slightly higher clocks stock.
 

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Intel, I9s worth it? Or stick with I7s?
Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor
seems to be best bang for buck right now.


Unless you really need to upgrade right this second, Id wait to see how the Ryzen 3000 series pans out. Pretty good chance it will be on par with intel i9 at a cheaper price. AMD will be announcing them tomorrow morning. Probably released in the next 2-3 months.
 

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Unless you really need to upgrade right this second, Id wait to see how the Ryzen 3000 series pans out. Pretty good chance it will be on par with intel i9 at a cheaper price. AMD will be announcing them tomorrow morning. Probably released in the next 2-3 months.
Sounds like I will wait but in the mean time this is what I came up with.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($369.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS ELITE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($161.50 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($259.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($147.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB Black Video Card ($698.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair - 750D ATX Full Tower Case ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1842.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-08 20:37 EST-0500
 

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I'm too lazy to look up the alternatives, but I know there are better budget coolers than the Evo these days, also, be wary of Gigabyte 370 or 390 boards, they're not as good a company as they used to be. Also, can the 8700k even be used on a 390 board? 370 was released for that gen. You can probably save some money by dropping down to 16g ram unless you know for sure you'll need more than that for a specific task. (can always add more later too)
 

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Actually, Gigabyte has way better VRMs on their Z390 boards than the other manufacturers. Yes, that's weird, but it's true.
 

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Actually, Gigabyte has way better VRMs on their Z390 boards than the other manufacturers. Yes, that's weird, but it's true.

Sure, and if all you care about is VRM's then that's great, but they've been failing a lot in other areas like updates, RMA, issues with various components they use, and half a dozen other areas of complaint. I say this as someone whose last 3 boards and last 2 GPU's are Gigabyte: I'm never buying another one of their products.
 

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Sure, and if all you care about is VRM's then that's great, but they've been failing a lot in other areas like updates, RMA, issues with various components they use, and half a dozen other areas of complaint. I say this as someone whose last 3 boards and last 2 GPU's are Gigabyte: I'm never buying another one of their products.
Every motherboard manufacturer has done some very shady shit in the past couple generations but expert analysis of build quality puts Gigabyte ahead for this generation at least.

And sure, you don't need great VRMs to run a 8700K at stock speeds, but a 9900K at stock speeds needs good VRMs just to run right at stock turbo settings, so everyone buying a 990)k should care about them.
 

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Every motherboard manufacturer has done some very shady shit in the past couple generations but expert analysis of build quality puts Gigabyte ahead for this generation at least.

And sure, you don't need great VRMs to run a 8700K at stock speeds, but a 9900K at stock speeds needs good VRMs just to run right at stock turbo settings, so everyone buying a 990)k should care about them.

I'm sure the good VRM will be a comfort to him when his onboard audio is spitting out static from EMI, his bios & driver updates are coming out twice as slow as everyone else, when he's susceptible to severe security flaws because Gigabyte has their fingers in their ears shouting "LALALAL CAN"T HEAR YOU" to security experts, and when his legitimate RMA's are rejected when he tries to address one of those issues.
 
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Sounds like I will wait but in the mean time this is what I came up with.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($369.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS ELITE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($161.50 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($259.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($147.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB Black Video Card ($698.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair - 750D ATX Full Tower Case ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1842.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-08 20:37 EST-0500
A machine well outside my league but I would put something like in it for the system partition. Costs a pittance compared to the rest.
 

brekk

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Hyper 212 is not adequate for the 8700k.

I'm rocking a Scythe Mugen 5 with my 8700k happily sitting at 4.9ghz