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I'm assuming he's talking 2080 not 2080ti. I consider the 2080ti the biggest fucking waste of money ever at the same cost as a really good gaming computer.

It's only a big difference in the sense of dick measuring. Total waste of time at that price and how bad the 20xx generation has been.

And doesn't change my point that you shouldn't compare a 5700XT to a 2080.

Mr. K said:

If you are willing to spend $650 for a card why even entertain the 5700XT?

2080>2070S>5700XT>2060S

It's a question of cost not performance. Personally, the bet bang for your buck will be the 5700XT 3rd party cards based on the benchmarks. But if you can spend more than $400~ the 2070S and 2080 cards have better specs and Ray Tracing.

But you really shouldn't be deciding between a 5700XT and 2080. Two totally different brackets.

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Yeah, 2080.

Well the build was originally supposed to be a 3700X on an Asus B450-F with Vega 56. But a bricked motherboard made me lose my mind and patience.

The build is now a 3900X with MSI X570 Ace. I was figuring $450 for a Red Devil XT, $550 for an EVGA 2070S, or $650 for an EVGA 2080.

I've sort of eliminated the XT--the price/performance is good, but I don't really want driver issues after a month of figuring out the Ryzen 3000 release. The one nagging thing is that I sort of want PCIe 4.0 so I can fiddle with BCLK.

2080 FTW3 Ultra: 3 fans, 2944 Cuda, 342 fill rate, 1860MHz Boost, 448GB bandwidth
2070 Super FTW3 Ultra: 2 fans, 2560 cuda, 290 fill, 1815 boost, 448 bw

mkopec said:

What resolution you playing at? Its all about that resolution, bro. Thats the deciding fdactior in a video card purchase.

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1440p

All the benchmarks I saw placed a 2080 at maybe 5% faster than a 2070 Super so given the price differential was still quite large I bought a 2070 Super a few weeks ago. No complaints with performance at 2560x1440.

I also never had issues with AMD drivers, in fact I would say their software is a lot better than the piece of shit that nvidia ships.

What processor these days finally doesn't bottleneck a 1080Ti, at 1440p 144hz? My Ryzen 7 1700 OCed just a little seems to be bottlenecked, and I heard the 20x series Ryzen would too for some of them.

Well I'd go big and do a 3xxx it you want to stay Ryzen. Otherwise go 9700k

Mist said:

Just watch the last 4 minutes of this video.

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Despite not streaming, and only ever gaming on my PC, I want to support Ryzen so Ryzen 7 3700X is where I want to be. Good to know. Will continue to start saving for that.

Mist said:

The 2070 Super is quite the card for the price, assuming you can get one that doesn't have the price all jacked up.

The 2080 non-super is an interesting card if you can pick one up for a decent discount price but I bet most have been snatched up.

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When I was looking a couple weeks back, the non-super dropped down to the mid price between the new Supers. If that is still the case IMO none of them are worth purchasing. Power aside the 2080 Super is generally priced too high for the performance.

Crone said:

Despite not streaming, and only ever gaming on my PC, I want to support Ryzen so Ryzen 7 3700X is where I want to be. Good to know. Will continue to start saving for that.

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The 3700x is a beast of a CPU. You will not be disappointed unless you get an MSI or Asus board. Intel still has AMD beat in the It Just Works category. My Gigabyte board works great, though.

Mist said:

The 2070 Super is quite the card for the price, assuming you can get one that doesn't have the price all jacked up.

The 2080 non-super is an interesting card if you can pick one up for a decent discount price but I bet most have been snatched up.

The 2080 Super is a power hog that can't possibly be stable long term. It's just overclocked and overvolted for maybe 5% better performance than the 2080 non-super.

Very simplistic chart but I do like how they just distilled everything down to a single graphic:

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Wow...My 1080ti is still holding up well. There really is no reason to upgrade. Not for 7-8 frame difference. The top two can kiss my ass for that price.

Brahma said:

Wow...My 1080ti is still holding up well. There really is no reason to upgrade. Not for 7-8 frame difference. The top two can kiss my ass for that price.

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This is Nvidia's huge problem. Their top end cards suck ass compared to the last gen.

While the 5700XT isn't better specs/benchmark wise, purely from a price point perspective (I'd imagine I'll find one for $350ish on Black Friday) it's better to buy one of them assuming you don't have a 1080ti already and then wait for Nvidia to get their heads out of their ass or for AMD to go for the throat and release a high end card with Ray Tracing for $500-$550.

Then you resell the 5700XT for $250-$275 and call it a day.

Once again if your a rich fuck or a shut in like Mist get a 2080TI, because you give zero fucks.

For people with kids and a budget, fuck the 20xx line.

I think I'll grab the 2080 if it's still at Microcenter today. I'm gonna miss that Red Devil RGB mousepad =/

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The blender benchmark is a bit over 4 minutes faster than the 3800X at similar all-core oc--each of the 4 additional cores is worth about a minute deducted from rendering that benchmark. I'm thinking a 3950X could do it about 6 minutes!

These Ryzen 3000 processors are great, but their boost speeds are turning out to be marketing puffery. The only time I've hit or exceeded advertised boost on 3700X, 3800X, and 3900X is on an early BIOS that had trouble supporting RAM. For example, the 3800X could hit up to 4550 on any core briefly, randomly with MSI ACE BIOS 110. On that same BIOS, the 3900X can hit up to 4650 on 4 of its 12 cores (all on the strong chiplet). But update BIOS to any of the subsequent versions to get proper RAM support, and the boost speeds are never seen again.