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Lanx

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So, I am a PC noob but am in the market to get a new one. Most I do with my pc is play WoW, GW2 and D2R. Seen this set up for a few hundred under my budget but as I said I dont know shit about pcs so was hoping to get some input from you guys.....


CPU: Intel Core i5-11400F (6C / 12T, 2.6 / 4.4GHz, 12MB)
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6GB GDDR6
RAM: 1x 8GB UDIMM DDR4-3200
Storage: 256GB PCIe SSD + 1TB HDD 7200RPM
Ports (front): 2 x USB-A 3.2 Gen 1 1 x Headphone 1 x Microphone
Ports (rear): 2 x USB-A 2.0 2 x USB-A 3.2 Gen 1 3 x Audio out (5.1 Channel) 1 x USB-C 3.2 Gen 2 1 x Ethernet (RJ-45) 1 x Power Connector
Connectivity: Wi-Fi 6 802.11ax 2x2 + Bluetooth 5.1

basically that set up for 850 bucks. Im sure it will run the games I mentioned but is it worth the price?
Am on a fixed budget so 1000 is about max I can do.
FUCK NO

looks like you want a nice pre-built for 800ish, someone will chime in with a good link, the system you spec'd out would be a budget 400$, so it's a really bad deal.
 
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So, I am a PC noob but am in the market to get a new one. Most I do with my pc is play WoW, GW2 and D2R. Seen this set up for a few hundred under my budget but as I said I dont know shit about pcs so was hoping to get some input from you guys.....


CPU: Intel Core i5-11400F (6C / 12T, 2.6 / 4.4GHz, 12MB)
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6GB GDDR6
RAM: 1x 8GB UDIMM DDR4-3200
Storage: 256GB PCIe SSD + 1TB HDD 7200RPM
Ports (front): 2 x USB-A 3.2 Gen 1 1 x Headphone 1 x Microphone
Ports (rear): 2 x USB-A 2.0 2 x USB-A 3.2 Gen 1 3 x Audio out (5.1 Channel) 1 x USB-C 3.2 Gen 2 1 x Ethernet (RJ-45) 1 x Power Connector
Connectivity: Wi-Fi 6 802.11ax 2x2 + Bluetooth 5.1

basically that set up for 850 bucks. Im sure it will run the games I mentioned but is it worth the price?
Am on a fixed budget so 1000 is about max I can do.


Anyone of these will be better (based on specs -can't speak to build quality, but parts should be mainly standard and non-proprietary).
 

Sevens

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Thanks for the replies,

Like the look of this one. It should do what I want? Never bought from newegg, they a pretty reliable company?


This one looks good too, and its cheaper....#2 on their best sellers list

Which would be better?
 
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Jovec

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Thanks for the replies,

Like the look of this one. It should do what I want? Never bought from newegg, they a pretty reliable company?


This one looks good too, and its cheaper....#2 on their best sellers list

Which would be better?

I'm not a pre-built kind of user. The Asus 5800X and 3600 are about $250 each to buy standalone, so it seems like a good deal until you realize that only leaves $250 for everything else. The case is dated and looks to have little ventilation. The power supply is probably low quality. The listed specs for the RAM is 2666 (3200 or 3600 with decent timings is much better for Ryzen).

The MSI build looks to have a better case and RAM but worse CPU. GPU is AMD (vs Nvidia on the Asus) if that matters - the 6600 should be a bit faster than the 3060 but the feature set is a bit worse. Power supply is arguably just as cheap.

I've bought from Newegg for 20+years without issue, but they've taken some (deserved) knocks lately for some shady things around forced bundling (during covid) and issues on returns. The return thing I think has a bit more gray area than people want to admit, because I think return scams by buyers is a huge problem for retailers these days which leads to retailers being overly cautious. FWIW, I have always received a new, correct item from Newegg and had no issue sending one mobo back (new, unopened, didn't need it).
 

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I'm not a pre-built kind of user. The Asus 5800X and 3600 are about $250 each to buy standalone, so it seems like a good deal until you realize that only leaves $250 for everything else. The case is dated and looks to have little ventilation. The power supply is probably low quality. The listed specs for the RAM is 2666 (3200 or 3600 with decent timings is much better for Ryzen).

The MSI build looks to have a better case and RAM but worse CPU. GPU is AMD (vs Nvidia on the Asus) if that matters - the 6600 should be a bit faster than the 3060 but the feature set is a bit worse. Power supply is arguably just as cheap.

I've bought from Newegg for 20+years without issue, but they've taken some (deserved) knocks lately for some shady things around forced bundling (during covid) and issues on returns. The return thing I think has a bit more gray area than people want to admit, because I think return scams by buyers is a huge problem for retailers these days which leads to retailers being overly cautious. FWIW, I have always received a new, correct item from Newegg and had no issue sending one mobo back (new, unopened, didn't need it).
Thanks for the info, wish I knew more about computers than I do...would love to build my own but dont have the knowledge.
Anyways, either one should be fine for WoW, GW2, Diablo2R and of course posting here?
 

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Costco always has some deals on gaming shit in your price range...

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Intel 9th, 10th and 11th gen basically all sucked, so stick with anything 12th or 13th gen.
 
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Thanks for the replies,

Like the look of this one. It should do what I want? Never bought from newegg, they a pretty reliable company?


This one looks good too, and its cheaper....#2 on their best sellers list

Which would be better?
Since it's Xmas and I'm a true bro why don't you spec out a system less the video card for like $500 and I'll ship/sell you my 6800xt for $300? Ho Ho Ho
 
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moonarchia

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So, windows 7 being EOL/EOS is starting to slowly leech away from my older computer's long term usefulness. That said, I realize I no longer need 2 ultra heavy gaming rigs since I don't even really need 1 given that FFXIV is the highest end game I play anymore. I have been looking at the mini form factor PCs lately, but am waffling a bit. This is probably something I will postpone for a year or two, but anyone know what mini pcs are king of the hill? The minisforum um690 is what I am leaning towards currently. That or what ever their "newest" model will be in 2024.
 

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This is kind of YMMV, but for those that live near a microcenter they have a combo deal with the AMD Ryzen 7 7700x and 32 GB g.skill Flare DDR5 6000 dual channel ram for $348. You can then add another 32GB ram kit on for $0.01 . I believe this only works if you reserve online for in store pickup. I was skeptical they would let it through, and the cashier questioned it and asked his manager after saying there is no way that could be correct, but the manager said "if the computer lets it through, just run it."

 
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slippery

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Friend wants to get a computer for her 11 y/o to game on, wants to spend like $500. Told her I'd build it, recommending a 5600g build. Told her I'd give her old case and I have 16GB 3200 DD4 I can pitch in. Any thoughts? I told her not to buy the monitor for now, I'll probably just give her an old shitty 1080p 60hz one, won't be IPS but whatever


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TJT

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I'm thinking of revamping my battle station slightly. I use this for both work and fun. What I think I want is a 34 ultrawide OLED when it comes out this year with 2x vertical monitor "leaves" on the left and right side.

This is to replace my 144hz and my 4k monitors when getting one that could do both was too expensive for my tastes.

So like 24 inch 144hz x2 tilted vertically and in the middle the ultrawide 144hz 4k monitor.

Smth like 45'' UltraGear™ OLED Gaming Monitor (45GR95QE-B) | PREORDER ?
 

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Friend wants to get a computer for her 11 y/o to game on, wants to spend like $500. Told her I'd build it, recommending a 5600g build. Told her I'd give her old case and I have 16GB 3200 DD4 I can pitch in. Any thoughts? I told her not to buy the monitor for now, I'll probably just give her an old shitty 1080p 60hz one, won't be IPS but whatever


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750w PSU is massive overkill for a build like this unless you want to give the kid the option to upgrade to a (high-end) discrete card down the line. I was running a RX 5700 on a 550W supply until recently.

Smart BM2 is kind of an eh PSU in roughly the same tier/price point as the Corsair CX. Would probably be OK for an iGPU build, but for about $10-20 more, you could get something like the Rosewill Photon (built on Super Flower's platform) or NZXT C series. Were it me, I'd spend even more - I always splurge on PSUs because a good one can last 2 or 3 builds.
 
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13900k+4090+ 45inch QHD 240hz OLED

or

7700k+7900XTX+ 45inch QHD 240hz OLED - until 3DVcache 7950X

I feel that in either situation i should be able to max out 240QHD
 

Mist

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Why do you all want the giant 45 inch 1440p monitor when Samsung and Alienware have 34" ones that don't have terrible PPI?
 
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slippery

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13900k+4090+ 45inch QHD 240hz OLED

or

7700k+7900XTX+ 45inch QHD 240hz OLED - until 3DVcache 7950X

I feel that in either situation i should be able to max out 240QHD
You thinking the Xeneon Flex?
Why do you all want the giant 45 inch 1440p monitor when Samsung and Alienware have 34" ones that don't have terrible PPI?
For me the PPI is enough, and it's more about video power to actually drive the pixels and still be able to have another monitor or two if I want
 

moonarchia

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So, windows 7 being EOL/EOS is starting to slowly leech away from my older computer's long term usefulness. That said, I realize I no longer need 2 ultra heavy gaming rigs since I don't even really need 1 given that FFXIV is the highest end game I play anymore. I have been looking at the mini form factor PCs lately, but am waffling a bit. This is probably something I will postpone for a year or two, but anyone know what mini pcs are king of the hill? The minisforum um690 is what I am leaning towards currently. That or what ever their "newest" model will be in 2024.
Decided to take the plunge. UM690 Ryzen 9 6900hx with a Radeon 680M graphics card. Basically they use laptop parts for these, which is fine. Waiting for it to be shipped out. Will report if it sucks or not.

 
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