Diablo 4 / IV / IIII / Fore / Cope / Seethe

I think the skip complaints are people that don't realize it bugs out and you have to alt-tab to unfuck it?

Chersk said:

I think the skip complaints are people that don't realize it bugs out and you have to alt-tab to unfuck it?

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yes.

There is still the issue of the camera.

It's been mentioned from last week's test before by other posters here.

The camera is about 20% too tight and it's designed to sell cosmetics. It ends up feeling clunky and restrictive. In D3 and Immortal the camera was just fine. As Chris implied, at times it feels like they took the best aspects of previous Diablo's and then just winged them into the trash or outright curb-stomped them in order to make D4 "DIFFERENT" (I'm looking at you D4 UI). Enough of that nonsense.

A tight camera up your ass isn't innovating. It's a step backwards. Let players bring the camera out a little bit more and increase the base runspeed of all players by 20%. You can still zoom up someone's ass crack if you need to check their cosmetics for fucks sake.

Really wished the D4 devs would of taken ideas from Path of Exile and Last Epoch regarding skills tree and crafting system. Maybe not PoE, it would be too much for alot Diablo players but using Last Epoch’s would of been perfect. It’s not too complicated or dumbed down/non existent.

mkopec said:

From what I have seen on streams so far, ill think ill pass on this one. But I dont begrudge people for wanting to play it.

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You can't go off streams on this one. ARPG and the way the streamers are demonstrating the game, the various points and space between, makes for really really bad streaming content.

Even changing classes was a serious problem for big streamers. Druid and Barb couldn't demonstrate anything in way of entertainment to a stream. Everyone cried out for the streamers to only play Sorc or Necro.

Don't judge this game based on streams. The content stream-wise has been complete ass.

I will never understand the desire to watch people play a video game...

My thoughts:

Good:

sound effects, combat flow, empty space entertainment (random intrigue going from place to place), forgiving and simple class options on pace with entry level part of game.

bad

Forced cutscenes, I’m too old to care about this stupid story. Feels like you’re on the park tour ride and can’t get off. Boring progression and no difficulty. Like remember if you didn’t respect a pack of archers in d2 you could get clipped? This is like - if you don’t respect some 3 second delay of a guy imploding you may go to 60%. I did die to the butcher once so I can’t say it’s impossible to die.

Ugly.

Optimization. I play with a handful of chillers and we all had to run it on medium with decent pcs. Medium looks like shit. Towns hitch. 5/5 of us had issues and most were similar.

Surprise positive : the powerful classes were boring to play and I almost quit bc it was so lame. The rogue melee was super satisfying and made the game so much more fun when you had to hop around and execute a few attacks vs 1 button clear.

overall

Hate to say it, but only 6/10 with upside. If they can get this butch running better for the average joe and have some truly unique…uniques, well I can see it being really fun to try a build, upgrade the unique, and hit some power spikes. Definitely potential, but feels less polished than D3 and fuck that story in the ass I don’t care

I had the blank character select screen...I just let it sit there for awhile and eventually it unfucked itself.

Rod-138 said:

My thoughts:

Good:

sound effects, combat flow, empty space entertainment (random intrigue going from place to place), forgiving and simple class options on pace with entry level part of game.

bad

Forced cutscenes, I’m too old to care about this stupid story. Feels like you’re on the park tour ride and can’t get off. Boring progression and no difficulty. Like remember if you didn’t respect a pack of archers in d2 you could get clipped? This is like - if you don’t respect some 3 second delay of a guy imploding you may go to 60%. I did die to the butcher once so I can’t say it’s impossible to die.

Ugly.

Optimization. I play with a handful of chillers and we all had to run it on medium with decent pcs. Medium looks like shit. Towns hitch. 5/5 of us had issues and most were similar.

Surprise positive : the powerful classes were boring to play and I almost quit bc it was so lame. The rogue melee was super satisfying and made the game so much more fun when you had to hop around and execute a few attacks vs 1 button clear.

overall

Hate to say it, but only 6/10 with upside. If they can get this butch running better for the average joe and have some truly unique…uniques, well I can see it being really fun to try a build, upgrade the unique, and hit some power spikes. Definitely potential, but feels less polished than D3 and fuck that story in the ass I don’t care

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Those two issues are what you can see in the thin veil of bullshit people complain about, usually. Either the class balance is absolute shit where the ideal character they want to play is either broken in an OP way or broken in a weak way. Then the performance is just ass, even on a 3500 dollar PC. Chunking in and around Kyovashad like a brick. Random zone switch chunks like Vanguard. Spell interactions that cause you to chunk. Then there is just a laundry list of bugs that come from grouping.

Hell, just the quality of life shit you deal with when grouping is horrible. Im standing right next to someone during the World Boss, and they invite me to join them and.. I have to load to join them in their phase? Mother fucker, Im in the same god damn phase already? Then the random group drops left and right. Never mind all the fucking issues that arise when combining main story quests when you're not on the exact same quest in the same area as someone else.

Then you have the laundry list of bugs that are just not there for Blizzards typical fit and finish. You can kill the guy in the bottom left that drops higher level shit that you cant use. Then put an aspect into it and that drops the required level of the item down to useable but doesnt downgrade the item itself. So if there is little shit like that, what kind of bugs are we going to end up with at the top end?

I enjoy the game and my g/f definitely enjoys it so it is a purchase. But I sure af dont think theyre going to fix much of anything before release.

I would be very surprised if they don't delay the game as it is very clearly not ready for release. I mean I guess a lot can happen in 10 weeks but as it's been said there is an unusually large amount of bugs and overall choppiness and of course the balance issues.

I should say that when the game is working flawlessly and you have a fun build, the game is good. It definitely needs a good bit of work though.