EQ Never
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Big Flex
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My problem with voxels isn't so much how it looks as it is that everything had to be engineered to make room for them. Its why everything had to be scrapped. My problem with voxels is it is a massive, massive component of the game world and experience that must be accounted for in literally every other aspect of the game, at the expense of other elements, energy, development attention, cost, and general art direction of non-voxel associated components. The change in art direction was to accommodate both voxels and soemote. While this is selfish, those are two feature I could personally do without in favor of a slightly less Pixar art style and more emphasis on the core gaming tenets Everquest evokes.
They could have literally just plugged in storybricks and EQN would have been revolutionary.
They could have literally just plugged in storybricks and EQN would have been revolutionary.
Agreed that it looks better, but it's not there yet. Textures are flat and don't sport near the detail of the polygon version. It still looks like a wreck from a distance but apparently they're working hard on the draw distance.
zzeris
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That's the unspoken aspect of this discussion. While that polygon art looked fantastic, they wanted destructible environs and some player-made voxel art is extremely nice. Some of that voxel artwork has obviously progressed since 2011...
zzeris
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Flex,
I think that is the most valid argument against the previous mgmt. They could have already been much further along with some significant upgrades but wanted to go all out on new and underdeveloped ideas and tech. Blizzard has already shown where simpler looking tech helps shift resources to other areas like smoother animations and less server issues. Will voxels and Storybricks take them to the next step? Or will not enough people care or too much was spent in the effort? I do like the thought of something completely new and innovative though. Is Daybreak really the company to provide that?
I think that is the most valid argument against the previous mgmt. They could have already been much further along with some significant upgrades but wanted to go all out on new and underdeveloped ideas and tech. Blizzard has already shown where simpler looking tech helps shift resources to other areas like smoother animations and less server issues. Will voxels and Storybricks take them to the next step? Or will not enough people care or too much was spent in the effort? I do like the thought of something completely new and innovative though. Is Daybreak really the company to provide that?
Big Flex
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Part of me thinks Daybreak is going to take the "Get this shit done and out the door and making us money" approach and we'll see a half finished disaster.
Convo
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my concern, I wonder how much money has been spent and what is left allocated to this project? It definitely feels like EQN needs like 2 more years?
No one is telling you want game to enjoy. People are telling you the type of game you want to play is not something a lot of people want and really not worthy of a large investment.
Convo
Ahn'Qiraj Raider
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is there a such thing as a worthy investment anymore with the MMO world? It's all a crapshoot at this point.
Muligan
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Can we please stop doing this to ourselves.YAY
BOO
YAY
Very Planetside 2, early voxel development, note the Paladin from the leak, and the traditional locations listed highlighted in green.Is this map relevant anymore?
It's not just SoE but the entire MMO industry loves to string you along with hype images and videos (which are completely staged) and then derail to reality.
It's depressing.
Big Flex
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You're correct, with that said the reason this is so impactful to us is a community is the fact that its associated with Everquest. Pure and simple. If this was the saga of Blizzard's Titan, I'd give zero fucks.You show me a voxel cumdumpster with "Innothule" and "Freeport" on the map, now I'm angry.We regard EQ like its the Prophet Muhammad.
Crowfall, don't let me down.
Malakriss
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I have zero confidence in [any studio's] ability to design a desirable PVE side of a non-instanced world, let alone a sandbox PVE.
Wasn't the whole point of voxels so that the community could contribute in very much artists can contribute to Dota2 items? There has to be some idea behind making money for just building things in EQN.
Landmark showed me just how shitty the icons of items were and how the UI was horrendous. Building things with vowels was pretty tedious, but could be enjoyable if you just wanted to vege out and not have to do PvE/PvP stuff.
I hope crowfall does it right. We just need the core of the game to work. Anything else is just bonus. It needs to have a dynamic community so that people have a world with people to interact with and the combat system needs to be fun. I already like their character progression UIs and the look is very clean and easy to understand.
Lleauaric
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I hate to Tom Friedman this, but it seems like its going to take about 6 months before enough dust settles and any information is released in order to see where EQN is heading. Anything other than that is salty speculation..
BTW ITT.
Im hoping EQN is good.. but if its not, meh, who really cares. Ill be more upset if I get an overcooked burger next time I go to WoodNTap.
BTW ITT.
But in all seriousness, you could do a sociological study of this thread. Its like there are group of people who for some reason got really hurt by something a video game company did and they cloak themselves in this shell of cynicism to protect this tiny precious part of them that is still left alive.
Im hoping EQN is good.. but if its not, meh, who really cares. Ill be more upset if I get an overcooked burger next time I go to WoodNTap.
