Final Fantasy XIV (Guide in first post)

Can also do ocean fishing, I saw ppl leveling there when I was looking for fishes for the achievement and they'd get like 3-4 levels just fishing and I think you get a bunch of xp at the end too. Can't chain it, it's only once every 2 hours but it seemed stupidly fast.

But yeah fishing is the one gathering skill you can level by just doing it at a decent pace, assuming you have manuals. Others you have to do collectables cause it's slow as shit, but fishes you get a bunch of xp for every fishes and with Patience you can just chain HQ so you always get big xp. You can still do collectables on top too in the right places, so it's really fast and easy to level.

Fishing is a huge completionist black hole though, on the surface it's easy enough but once you start the quest for big fishes this shit takes forever. Like mining/botanist to get the most current shiny tool achievement you need like 280 or 300 unique items or whatever, that's basically all of them, but it only takes a few hours to do, there's a few unspoiled nodes but most spawn twice an hour, a few of the older ones only once an hour but if you plan properly for it you can be done in a big day. Fishing on the flipside requires 1440 fishes, 200+ of which are big fishes. The fishes are random and some have low % bite rate, some only spawn at certain hours or during certain weather. The big fishes usually combine several of these conditions, on top of not being guaranteed catches when you get a bite(even old expansion ones, you can have 2000 gathering and ARR big fishes still have a set "miss" rate). Some are so rare they can go weeks without even being available to TRY. Real weeks, not ingame weeks.

It is pretty fun filling up that log though, there's quite a lot of depth to the fishing system once you understand some intricacies(and it keeps evolving, I learned about chum cancel last time I resubbed, a tech found because of how stupid some of the new big fishes are in ShB). But I wouldn't really recommend it, as you're probably looking at like 250-300hours of fishing to even get somewhere, which is hilarious when you compare it to the ~6hours for the other gathering.

How the fuck did you do 10/10/10 with just this step? I was still leveling when I did it but it wasn't even close, especially seeing how the mettle point shit goes up the more you have. I finished the relic stuff and did a few more dalriada and the weekly and I'm at like 4/2/0 or some shit, I basically filled the mettle bar 3 times total. The only way I'd see getting 10/10/10 is farming those stupid pages things for the mount, I mean it's 90 normal fates and 45CEs, which overall isn't that much xp.

Well if you did the pages yeah that'd make sense since that's a lot of additional grind. I had the duel buff like once when I was farming but still wasn't close. Granted if I had been max level while doing it I probably would have gotten more since the higher rank you are, the more mettle you get, but still doesn't feel like it'd be close to 10/10/10, that's like 400m or something iirc? CEs give like what, 1.2m with the buff? And fates give 500k.

I mean I wasn't really trying for it anyway, I just cashed in whatever mettle I had and stopped doing the thing as soon as I was done with my relics so it's fine, just feels like it's a lot more grinding. I'll be running the place for RPR/SGE but don't really need the buffs for that, I'm just mostly going to be doing fates and I guess CEs hoping someone is a tank or using a tank essence so I don't have to do it.

Kuro said:

I feel like the base game story wants me to care about the ala mhigans, but they honestly come across as a bunch of bloodthirsty assholes that are just butthurt because they were on the wrong side of the ass kicking this time.

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Yeah don't care much about them. They get a bit fleshed out during Stormblood(MNK questline also, some decent story there) but overall they're not very interesting people imo, kinda just help them cause Garleans are worse. Some of them are actually pretty good people but they're the typical "honor and strength" people but since they're now refugees and mostly treated like shit cause of Uldah "money is everything" mentality, most just turn into(or already were) bullies and criminals. Even the bit in Stormblood doesn't really redeem them, but I'd say the story doesn't really force you to like them even in these parts, it shows some interesting people, but it's also litterred with human garbage during that MSQ.