Final Fantasy XIV (Guide in first post)

I think ff14 pulls a lot of square Enix disasters with its money, rather than going back into its development

It 100% does, although that happens with lots of companies: One area does well, one doesn't, money from area that does well helps shore up the shortfalls of other areas rather than invest in the area doing well.

There is also a delicate balance between under and overfunding an area.

On a side note, cool interview with Koji Fox where he talks about developing the game and localization.

Cybsled said:

Lolstralia. What’s with Australia and the UK being censor happy nanny states?

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I believe that is the whole reason for FF14 going after the Modded client thing(Mare Lament??? whatever, I don't use mods), even Yoshi stated it after the initial C&D was posted, they are protecting the game its self it has nothing to do with anything else. Also at the time all the credit processing business were being hounded by fucking morons, cause "They didn't like this game on steam.. etc etc".

As far as the blood thing though.. who knows I really don't understand the disdain for any kind of violence fake or real.

I think fundamentally the story telling was solid in FF14 but I felt the overall gameplay sort of sucked outside dungeons. They needed to weave in more combat into the MSQ somehow.

Caeden said:

I think fundamentally the story telling was solid in FF14 but I felt the overall gameplay sort of sucked outside dungeons. They needed to weave in more combat into the MSQ somehow.

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They have tried to add in more combat stuff during MSQ, playing other Scion Characters/Wuk(this one really sucked, War will War I guess..)

But of course people complained cause they were constantly failing at extra character sections.. even though if you read the tool tips on some of the abilities.. You have to try REALLY hard to fail..(From what I remember all the scions we played all had some form of group heal/stun style type damage that worked 100% on enemies.)

MSQ is what takes away from the good part of the game, aka the MMO part. I would go back but the enduring the MSQ is a no go. At least WoW lets you bypass it.

Araxen said:

MSQ is what takes away from the good part of the game, aka the MMO part. I would go back but the enduring the MSQ is a no go. At least WoW lets you bypass it.

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The mmo part felt useless. I tried to go in blind on the game mostly. So I picked up all quests and was doing them plus MSQ. And the quests are worth jack shit on xp.

I did really enjoy the dungeons and raids.

The biggest problem with combat in the MSQ is the vast majority of MSQ these days is kind of hit the main town areas, few side areas, and the most combat you'll have is kill 3 mobs of X type. Any character even remotely geared in previous expansion level gear should have no problem facerolling through.

The duty parts are the only real interesting combat, but even these seemed semi toned down partly because they've started having you control other characters and they're clearly afraid to make that too complicated for the floor of the playerbase. Dungeons and trials in general have been pretty solid this expansion. It would be nice if they had some other level of combat content in the MSQ that was semi challenging outside of those, though.

People have bitched about being forced to control things that aren't their character in MMOs for decades. I remember people cried like fucking babies about Wintergrasp and them adding vehicles on the forums

"I learned to master my class, now I have to learn something new????"

This is why we can't have nice things

Cybsled said:

People have bitched about being forced to control things that aren't their character in MMOs for decades. I remember people cried like fucking babies about Wintergrasp and them adding vehicles on the forums

"I learned to master my class, now I have to learn something new????"

This is why we can't have nice things

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Because its usually implemented in a way thats just fucking worse than your character. Like the Tank in WoW's PVP? Its fucking awful and slow. Sureeeee you can take the wall/tower/barricade out with much more ease. But god forbid one to three or more players start attacking you. Its a gah' damn TANK - why is it some slow, fragile, glass cannon? How is that fun? "Oh but you just need to be a team player!" no.. fuck that. Make it damn near God mode for a short duration. Or the CC from Naxxramas raid boss? Yes, that is exactly what I want to do while everyone else is having fun ... /yawn. Or all the vehicles you can use in Ulduar? Fucking hate starting that raid, but love the rest of it, because I hate that entire beginning sequence. The vehicles are just straight AWFUL. If you want interaction from players like that, then have them interact with the environment on their character - like the saw blade dude in Siege of Orgrimmar where you're hopping in tubes, and traversing conveyor belts etc.

Its just so fucking boring. Worse yet, even the games I have played where its at least implemented to play well and you're almost God mode - its almost required that you do it at that point and time when you're playing the game. You dont have access to it any other time. Unlike say, Halo, you have the tanks and other things - and they are out in the open, optional, powerful, and not necessarily restricted to an area because the barricades can usually be overcame. The only time you cant use them is when the terrain switches to a tunnel. But even then, you can force a speeder up in them usually - which is still powerful in its own right.

TL;DR - Vehicles in MMO's are fucking awful in comparison to other games like Halo, Call of Duty, etc. If people arent fighting/bitching over who gets to "use" the vehicle, then your implementation of them is fucking awful.