Frozen 2 (2019)

frozen was absolutely a fluke. it's the snow queen, except like, half way through production they changed the story so that elsa isn't the villain. that's why the real villain feels off. he's not particularly consistent throughout the story. like, it works. he's serviceable but when he turns out to be a bad guy it's sort of a headscratcher based on what he had already done so far.

i'm not saying little girls shouldn't love it. it's a fine movie, it's just that what made frozen special is that it was sort of a breath of fresh air. if you try to add more story to it, it waters down what makes it special. it is literally the exact same issue with the incredibles (though incredibles was SO MUCH BETTER than frozen). it's a great movie that stands up on it's own. as soon as you add a sequel, the sequel itself is "meh" no matter what you do with it.

j00t said:

frozen was absolutely a fluke. it's the snow queen, except like, half way through production they changed the story so that elsa isn't the villain. that's why the real villain feels off. he's not particularly consistent throughout the story. like, it works. he's serviceable but when he turns out to be a bad guy it's sort of a headscratcher based on what he had already done so far.

i'm not saying little girls shouldn't love it. it's a fine movie, it's just that what made frozen special is that it was sort of a breath of fresh air. if you try to add more story to it, it waters down what makes it special. it is literally the exact same issue with the incredibles (though incredibles was SO MUCH BETTER than frozen). it's a great movie that stands up on it's own. as soon as you add a sequel, the sequel itself is "meh" no matter what you do with it.

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Doesn't matter. It will still make a billion in the theatre plus the billions from merch.

the boyfriend's song was pretty funny, it wasnt great, but the 80s cheese factor made me smile. and yeah Frozen was a goddamned huge movie, it warped little girls minds across the planet. no fucking idea why.

Frozen was an OK movie with some of the best songs in a disney movie in quite awhile. Definitely more than just Let it Go, off the top of my head Olaf’s song about summer and the troll song about them being fixer uppers were good.

Definitely agree that Tangled was a better movie, but didn’t have that one song that could stand alone outside of the movie.

idk, I liked Frozen, I liked that they didn't go a more traditional route with the protagonist/antagonist. The side effect is yeah, Hans doesn't feel super important to the story. Moana is fucking great, Tangled was good but very Disney paint by numbers princess movie. Of the 3, Moana is probably my favorite, but the kids worship Elsa like a motherfucking old one. I've managed to put off seeing the second Frozen until this coming weekend.

chaos said:

idk, I liked Frozen, I liked that they didn't go a more traditional route with the protagonist/antagonist. The side effect is yeah, Hans doesn't feel super important to the story. Moana is fucking great, Tangled was good but very Disney paint by numbers princess movie. Of the 3, Moana is probably my favorite, but the kids worship Elsa like a motherfucking old one. I've managed to put off seeing the second Frozen until this coming weekend.

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My 4 yo daughter’s favorite movie is Moana, so I’ve seen it a few times. It’s a good movie for sure but it bothers me that the fucking ocean could have just done everything in a few minutes.

The music in 2 is nowhere as good as in 1. which is probably why 1 was so popular. Im a Moana boy myself, love the music, love the Rock, love Polynesia and love LMM.

I feel kinda strange being a man in his 40's cosigning on Moana being a fun movie to watch. God help me.

I think I'm missing out. I need to go nap me a kid.

no need to be shamed, Tangled, Frozen 1 and 2 are all John Lasseter films, Lasseter is Pixar and these movies are all state of the art CGI.

took visiting kids to see this, the story is completely incoherent and feels like it was written by an AI. I'd want to say its "woke" bullshit but its so badly done I'm not sure if it even makes any sense. In the 80s and 90s male writers would use magical black men (Will Smith, Morgan Freeman) to teach young white people about life in movies, somehow in the last few years white women writers I guess have morphed that to magical vaguely ethnic brown "in touch with nature" people instead and this movie is full of that.

There's nothing bad in here but its just not interesting in any way, I almost got in a good nap twice but then some asshole on screen would start singing really, really loud. I really understand why Olaf plays a big part in these movies though, afterwards the kids could not tell me a goddamn thing about the story other than everything Olaf did, he is the kid magnet center of these.

If you have any 1-12 year olds you are gonna get dragged to see it this holiday, its at least short and bland. Nothing that will turn your daughter into a lesbian tranny, at best she'll want to adopt a pet salamander.

No short before the movie either.

Ravishing said:

Tangled is still better than Frozen but for some reason it flew under the radar. Neglected by Disney, released at a bad time, most parents never heard of it, or something. My daughters love Tangled a lot more than Frozen. I tried to put on Frozen before seeing #2 and they yelled at me. Frozen #1 doesn't really appeal to them at all.

However, they can watch Olaf's Frozen Christmas 1000x and still be happy.

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Tangled is a 999% better movie than Frozen 1 or 2.

Just saw it today, meh.

They had a decent hero's journey set up, and then... all the sacrifice all the trial... just...fell flat.

Also...yeah...not spoilering this...

All this set up to // the first movie and have "love" be the 5th element...but no, it's some random wt handwave

Frozen II leads to mass machete wielding madness in the UK!

Well kinda.

Falxy-US said:

Haha I love the internet. A bunch of bros comparing kids movies! I totally agree about Tangled being great. The evil "mother" is absolutely fantastic, and always love the scene where Rapunzel and Flynn (?) are in that village and the music starts playing, etc. Just great. Also I really enjoy Moana too.

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This is why you can't go too crazy about opinions here on this particular movie. I would imagine a bunch of mostly middle aged men isn't the target audience. Apparently the kids like it though and Disney continues to print money with it.


Walt Disney Animation's Frozen 2 created a global blizzard in its box office debut, grossing an estimated $130 million in North America and $228.2 million internationally for a worldwide start of $358.2 million.