GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings
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kegkilla
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Why don't you read this thread anymore? You think you're too good for us?
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Jozu
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I admit the new PW era (Post Wooly) in this thread has been rough but a few of us good soldiers have manned the fucking wall and stood up after a legendary Autist was taken too soon (during his prime, it seems), leaving this thread bewildered and battered by fits of dense writing and dumber screen time decisions (more greywurmmmmm).
But we carry on, and continue forming ideas and discuss possible plot points and the series' twilight period and ultimate ending.
In a (cruel?) Twist of fate it's almost like Bran picked up the torch after Wooly went back to the essence and became the new Autist and chief. Bran is like a reverse Wooly though , unable to so easily articulate himself, yet still achieving the same level of autistic behavior. The ending truly will be bitter sweet, perhaps Bran wargs Samwell at the end and rewrites the history books of Westeros both literally and figuratively.
But we carry on, and continue forming ideas and discuss possible plot points and the series' twilight period and ultimate ending.
In a (cruel?) Twist of fate it's almost like Bran picked up the torch after Wooly went back to the essence and became the new Autist and chief. Bran is like a reverse Wooly though , unable to so easily articulate himself, yet still achieving the same level of autistic behavior. The ending truly will be bitter sweet, perhaps Bran wargs Samwell at the end and rewrites the history books of Westeros both literally and figuratively.
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Oldbased
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Chukzombi
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Jozu
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I wholeheartedly agree. Wooly was truly an unparalleled type of genius, one who was aware of it just like the rest of us.
But Bran is showing true promise, but obviously not the Autist that was Promised....or is He?
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What the fuck?
Tyrion leads a single group of soldiers in defense of Mud Gate and orchestrated a ambush using a wildfire boat before his troops turn on him, he then gives a speech, charges through the sewers and then gets his face cut and Pod saves his ass while he passes out...
Hell, he would have gotten all those men killed if it wasn't for chance...
THAT is him being a great General? This suddenly puts him on par with Jamie or Randall Tarly (or even Cersei)?
Again this sounds like a viewer problem, not a writing problem. You saw Tyrion behave as a barely competent Company Commander and only stopped his own troops from turning on him because he knows how to bullshit his way out of a situation and all of a sudden the man is Aegon The Conqueror...
No doubt the man can think and strategist, but you have zero evidence of him being even a barely competent military leader on par with Jamie or the rest.
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Cad
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To be fair the chain was a good idea, showed real initiative and at least the way that battle played out, changed the battle in their favor.
Whether Tywin showing up would have made the chain unnecessary is another matter, but Tyrion thought that up himself and in enough time to execute it. That's pretty good.
It doesn't show organizational ability or leadership, but it does show he knows how to think through a plan for a battle given the enemy's advantages and the things you have available to counter it, and think up something out of the box.
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Screamfeeder
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It was. I never said he wasn't smart. He is. Him, Varys and (earlier) Litterfinger are the most intelligent and clever people around. But none of that speaks toward his ability as a military commander. People bitching about why they got so burned on Casterly Rock and missing the Iron Fleet think Tyrion is just supposed to "magic think" up some solution because he was clever in other ways before.
it would be like The Mountain "magic thinking" up how to use a bow and arrow like Robin Hood because he is good with a sword and really strong and I mean, both of those are weapons right?
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Soygen
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Lendarios
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I mentioned this to my coworker but I think a rat is giving cersei/euron the heads up so they can use the navy properly.
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That is a common theory out there. Someone in Danys circle is passing along info. I think they will try and set it up as Tyrion (based on comments made last episode) which means it's not him at all. My money is on Davos (just for shock value) or some rando.
spronk
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its melisandre
she is from naath, which spelled backwards is htaan. HTA is health technology assessment. Who believed in technology in Westeros? The Maesters. Who was a Maester? Pycelle. Pycelle backwards is Elle Cyp. Ellie May Clampett was the youngest daughter of Jed Clampett, who was the patriarchy of the richest man in America. Who was the richest man in Westeros? Tywin Lannister, whose youngest daughter is Cersei. Checkmate.
she is from naath, which spelled backwards is htaan. HTA is health technology assessment. Who believed in technology in Westeros? The Maesters. Who was a Maester? Pycelle. Pycelle backwards is Elle Cyp. Ellie May Clampett was the youngest daughter of Jed Clampett, who was the patriarchy of the richest man in America. Who was the richest man in Westeros? Tywin Lannister, whose youngest daughter is Cersei. Checkmate.
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Denaut
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You really are going all in on this nonsense for some reason. I don't know what you think generalship is, but he organized, planned, and executed the defense of the capital city of Westeros, with a population of half a million (according to Googling). He kept the entire roiling place together, ruling it while also overseeing the military and strategic plans required to keep it safe. Among this was his conceiving of, planning for, and successfully executing the completely novel wildfire attack which surprises and devastates his (very capable) enemy.
And then during the battle, when he needs to, he recognizes the vulnerability of a critical part of the defense and goes there personally to boost morale and rally flagging troops, knowing full well he is a shit fighter and is quite likely to die in the attempt.
So yes, he is an excellent military commander/strategist as demonstrated by the show, even if he is a crap fighter. And at no point did I say he was better than Jamie or Tarley.