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Skirt steak: sous vide or no? I am planning on making some fajitas next weekend. Typically I just do it up on the grill, super high heat for a short period of time. I saw a couple of recipes and cook times (varying between 8 and 24 hours in the sous vide) but Serious Eats said skip the sous vide and do it up like I have been.

I am considering just trying it anyway and seeing if it works well.
I've sous-vide skirt steaks with asian marinades before that turned out amazing, but if I were just cooking up some fajita meat I'd probably just grill it.

When I am doing sous-vide with a marinade I try for a longer cook time. I shoot for 4 hours-ish.
 

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Came out perfect. Way more tender and might be my imagination but way less shrinkage. Doesn't shrink at all when it's in the sous vide just when you sear it.
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I think it would be a waste to sous vide flank or skirt steak just because by the time you're done searing it, it's pretty much done. Of course I think it's a waste to sous vide any steak, but it's silly on super thin steaks in particular.
 

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We should have a list of shit you should have BEFORE you get your sous vide station, imo

1. foodsaver/vacuum sealer if you so choose, you can do ziplock displacement.Ask Jason: How to Use Ziploc Bags for Sous Vide - Modernist Cooking Made Easy
2. prepare all your aeromatics, butter? this article convinced me not toSous-Vide 101: Prime Steak Primer | Serious Eats
3. torch and/or cast ironflat (more surface area)
a.Amazon.com: Iwatani Cooking Torch, 9, 725 BTU/h: Cooking Torches: Kitchen Dining
i have that torch, it uses canister butane and is easy and cheap to use. goto any asian grocer and ask for butane and they'll have it for a buck a piece, even if you sear for a year, you'll maybe use up 1 canister if you live in bum fuck idaho where you can't even find an asian grocer then you can get em for 2bucks a piece or so
Amazon.com : Gas One Gasone Butane - Set of 8 - Fuel Canisters - 8 Cans : Camping Stoves : Sports Outdoors
b. of course any man needs at least 2 cast iron skillets around, either get a lodge one or maybe grandma has a super seasoned godly pan that is 40years old
Amazon.com: Lodge LCS3 Pre-Seasoned Cast-Iron Chef Dining

I just recently setup a friend w/ a sous vide station too (anova) and those are what i told him to get.
Chaos, I think there is some good information in this post that is front page worthy, in the sous vide section!
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Sous vide pork tenderloin: marinade in olive oil, garlic, honey, rosemary, salt, pepper. The flavor was great. I tried browning it on the grill real quick but it was raining and the grill didn't get hot enough, either that or I just didn't leave it long enough or something. Probably I am to blame. However, it highlighted the use for a torch. With a torch I wouldn't have been sweating overcooking the pork I just meticulously crafted out of sweat and iron and rich mahogany. Oh well, still an A meal, just could have been A+.

Next up: maple-soy salmon, SOUS VIDE!

As an aside, it is about a month of eating wheat free due to my new curse from god in the form of a wheat allergy. At home the only thing it has really changed is I don't bake anymore. I may try after a while, idk. No breads or tortillas sucks the diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick. I finally found some acceptable gluten-free wraps at the store but I have given up on making my own for now. Eating a lot more protein. GETIN SWOLE SON. Eating out is what sucks. Gluten free bread is not good, and those lettuce wrapped burgers are no substitute for a man's meal. I can't even eat fries at most places. We went to Famous Dave's (because there is no good barbecue here) and I literally could eat one thing on the entire menu. One thing. Fucking blows.
 

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Sous vide pork tenderloin: marinade in olive oil, garlic, honey, rosemary, salt, pepper. The flavor was great. I tried browning it on the grill real quick but it was raining and the grill didn't get hot enough, either that or I just didn't leave it long enough or something. Probably I am to blame. However, it highlighted the use for a torch. With a torch I wouldn't have been sweating overcooking the pork I just meticulously crafted out of sweat and iron and rich mahogany. Oh well, still an A meal, just could have been A+.

Next up: maple-soy salmon, SOUS VIDE!

As an aside, it is about a month of eating wheat free due to my new curse from god in the form of a wheat allergy. At home the only thing it has really changed is I don't bake anymore. I may try after a while, idk. No breads or tortillas sucks the diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick. I finally found some acceptable gluten-free wraps at the store but I have given up on making my own for now. Eating a lot more protein. GETIN SWOLE SON. Eating out is what sucks. Gluten free bread is not good, and those lettuce wrapped burgers are no substitute for a man's meal. I can't even eat fries at most places. We went to Famous Dave's (because there is no good barbecue here) and I literally could eat one thing on the entire menu. One thing. Fucking blows.
Will just a regular propane torch work?

And as an aside, I feel your pain on the going out for dinner thing.
 

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torch/grill/cast iron past for the after effects of a nice sous vide piece of meat just to try to get the yummy Maillard reaction (browning/searing) is a tradeoff. In 1 hand you have an entire slab of meat that is cooked to perfection, but is lacking the OOMPH of a sear. (Plus it looks god damn disgusting)

You really need a super hot cast iron pan + torch combo to get the best of the best, torch while you cast iron 1 side. I'll admit the torch becomes problematic w/ larger cuts b/c then you have to use so much surface area.

For 1 slab of meat, a torch will do, if you're doing it for a dinner party? gotta whip out the pan.
 

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So.... Masterchef US auditions usually start in October. I'm debating auditioning. Having watched a ton of cooking shows, the main things are precise execution of basic techniques, keeping it simple, correct seasoning, and finding ways to do things faster than usual. I wanted to audition last year but the wife was working full time and had grad school, I was her support network through that and she wouldn't have managed without me. But she is finished with her Masters and all her lesson plans are updated for the new standards, so next year won't be hard on her at all by comparison. I'm really curious if anyone has ideas for how to do things faster. I can now make fresh yeast-risen bread in a hair less than an hour using the microwave fermentation trick. It isn't quite as good as a long rise loaf imo, but fresh out of the oven it tastes better than any other bread I've managed to make in an hour. I've started memorizing recipes for the common pastry items that get made every season (souffle happens every season, swear to god). Ideas?
 

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Sous vide pork tenderloin: marinade in olive oil, garlic, honey, rosemary, salt, pepper. The flavor was great. I tried browning it on the grill real quick but it was raining and the grill didn't get hot enough, either that or I just didn't leave it long enough or something. Probably I am to blame. However, it highlighted the use for a torch. With a torch I wouldn't have been sweating overcooking the pork I just meticulously crafted out of sweat and iron and rich mahogany. Oh well, still an A meal, just could have been A+.

Next up: maple-soy salmon, SOUS VIDE!

As an aside, it is about a month of eating wheat free due to my new curse from god in the form of a wheat allergy. At home the only thing it has really changed is I don't bake anymore. I may try after a while, idk. No breads or tortillas sucks the diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick. I finally found some acceptable gluten-free wraps at the store but I have given up on making my own for now. Eating a lot more protein. GETIN SWOLE SON. Eating out is what sucks. Gluten free bread is not good, and those lettuce wrapped burgers are no substitute for a man's meal. I can't even eat fries at most places. We went to Famous Dave's (because there is no good barbecue here) and I literally could eat one thing on the entire menu. One thing. Fucking blows.
no Corn tortillas?
 

opiate82

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So.... Masterchef US auditions usually start in October. I'm debating auditioning. Ideas?
Honestly to get on the show I think your cooking will be secondary to your "screen presence." They are going to be looking for interesting and potentially conflicting personalities. Not say you don't also have to cook, what some of those guys and gals come up with on a moments notice amaze me, but you had better also make yourself stand out in a crowd.

Either way, keep us updated, sounds like it could be fun/cool!

*edit: Might be a little hard to know what ingredients you get to work with, but try watching the show and playing along with the contestants. I think the most recent one I watched was a cinamon roll challenge in 45 minutes, try to do shit like that with along with the show, especially the pressure challenges.
 

The Master

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Yeah, I just watched that episode. Honestly I've never tried to do a chemically leavened cinnamon roll. I would have done a basic dough, put some cinnamon, sugar, butter mixture on it, rolled it, cut it, baked it, and prayed. That probably would have been enough to get by (Simple things executed well rarely go home). So now I have Googled it and I have discovered something previously unknown to me: Cooks Illustrated made a cookbook called Quick Recipes that actually has a 45 minute cinnamon roll recipe. So clearly I am going to be acquiring and reading that.
 

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You can't prepare for the multiple episode elimination cook shows (masterchef/hells kitchen etc). First they are looking for a particular contestant, from exit interviews of a few hells kitchen/masterchef ppl, they know your exact skillset, so all the bumbling and all the awesome that you see on TV, producers know what they're getting/giving.

Plus they interview you multiple stages/times, so you can't "create" a persona (i'm a super villian!), or something.

My only advice is that if you're going for masterchef, i notice asians always fuck up the rice for the first audition, cuz they don't bring their own rice cooker. could i make rice in just a regular pot? yes, b/c i've done it at least 3000x in my teens (i was responsible for the dinner rice), but that was 20 years ago, ha.

So if you have a piece of equipment you know like the back of your hand and is integral to your audition meal, bring it along, imo.

Masterchef i notice, "if" you manage to get on, you're fucked if you don't at least have passable skill in the major ethnicities, able to work with the major meats, and using the major techniques.

like a lot of ppl fuck up, cuz they've never cooked indian b4, wtf!
A lot don't bake!, while most baking is math and memorization, stuff like "3-2-1 dough because it's made up of 3 parts flour, 2 parts fat, and 1 part water (by weight)" should be used.

btw how is masterchef s6 looking? i haven't had time to watch, i'm wondering how Tosi is as a personality?
 

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They're ok but not my preference. And they don't work for everything. Corn tortilla fajitas are against god.
Touch?.

On the other hand, good/great corn tortillas are better than all except the best flour tortillas.
 

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I've always preferred flour. There's just something about putting lard in stuff.
 

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I wonder if any local stores have those. They are 30 bucks on Amazon for 44 tortillas. A bit much.
 

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I wonder if any local stores have those. They are 30 bucks on Amazon for 44 tortillas. A bit much.
Looks like $10.95 of that is shipping, but those aren't the tortilla land ones, they are a different uncooked variety (doubt it makes a difference). Are these not eligible for Prime shipping? $18.95 for the actual 44 count of tortillas.

Amazon.com : Uncooked Flour Tortillas Fresca 8 Inch 44 Count In Pack : Frozen Uncooked Tortilla : Grocery Gourmet Food

Also, Apparently some Whole Foods and Safeways carry the Tortilla Land ones.

EDIT: They have a store finderFind a Store - TortillaLand Flour and Corn Tortillas
 

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Store Locator shows them in Wal-Marts near me. If I go into a Wal-Mart, these better be the best tortillas ever made.