Guardians of the Galaxy (2014)

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Disney Stands Firm on James Gunn Not Returning to ‘Guardians of the Galaxy’ (EXCLUSIVE)
Once Feige is back in town, Disney and Marvel will continue the search for a new director. It is still unknown if the production schedule will be affected by the change in the director’s seat. The film was expected to go into production at the start of 2019, and while sources have stressed that Gunn’s original script will be used for the next film, it is still very likely that whoever is brought in will still need to put a polish on it in order to add their stamp to the project.

looks like drax won't have to follow through on his threats to quit if Gunn's script isn't used
 
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Drax was worthless in GotG2 anyway. Dude just told shitty jokes the whole movie. 3 will work fine without him.
 
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Oh I do get that it was a theme'd party, but isn't it all just a group of friends having some fun . . . in bad taste yeah some level of it.

But a theme of a party is just that, I knew some people who had a Chernobyl themed party, this was only like year after it happened. The "Cherno-Ball" they called it and people turned up with radiation type burns etc. People just do shit.

And I will conceed, that with those pictures and what we know of the theme of the party does make it look bad for Gunn with yet one more example of his poor "morality compass".

But as far as I know it's only his humour and tweets, there's been no actually claims of Gunn being a pedo.
 
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Gamma Rays said:
Oh I do get that it was a theme'd party, but isn't it all just a group of friends having some fun . . . in bad taste yeah some level of it.

But a theme of a party is just that, I knew some people who had a Chernobyl themed party, this was only like year after it happened. The "Cherno-Ball" they called it and people turned up with radiation type burns etc. People just do shit.

And I will conceed, that with those pictures and what we know of the theme of the party does make it look bad for Gunn with yet one more example of his poor "morality compass".

But as far as I know it's only his humour and tweets, there's been no actually claims of Gunn being a pedo.
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Dude is sketchy. Disney would be taking a huge gamble keeping Gunn and then an accuser surfaces amid production of GotG3 and Disney had all these warning signs. They would take a big loss if that happened.
 
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Hey as long as they were all adults
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I 100% agree and it clearly doesn't appear that they were 17 or younger, but c'mon... that's a whole lot of smoke around this dude.

I stated a bit ago in this thread that I think (i.e. truly HOPE) that the guy just has an unfiltered and twisted sense of humor with this and nothing legit is going on, but there's undeniably a handful of odd things about him here LoL... not damnable evidence per-se, but... definitely odd.
 
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Catch a Predator was at its peak back then, also the Church sex scandal hit its high note in the US in 2004. Not surprising to see someone dressed like a priest.
 
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His prior movies have had some edgy shit in them that pushed the envelop of good taste. There is a clip of the Half in the Bag guys talking about it when he got hired somewhere in this thread wondering how the guy who did Super would get a Disney Job. For the record, Slither was pretty fucked up and funny as a movie, too. I mean I liked the move a lot but he basically went out of his way to have what was presumably an underage girl naked in a bath tub get raped by slugs, so its not like there has not been signs of it in his work all these years. This might just be his fucked up background in horror movies (Slither is crammed full of homages), but then you look at his career track and he goes from writer to directing his own movies in three projects, then two commercial failures and the PG Porn thing, and suddenly he is handed keys to a Disney Marvel project. Too much weirdness following this guy around to not be suspicious. I am thinking Disney rolled the dice on him because someone in his circle of perverts pushed him for what was at the time an unimportant Marvel movie, thinking no one would ever notice the shit he was into, then the Guardians ends up being one of the best Marvel franchises so jokes on them.
 
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The thing that bothers me is all this shit is from roughly a decade ago... If you look at my social media stuff from a decade or more ago, I say some pretty out there shit too. He even, since then but before this current media madness, has apologized for his past behavior and persona and said he is a different person. At this point, it's like people aren't allowed to change -- they're always who they once we're apparently. What ever happened to forgiveness and redemption?
 
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pharmakos said:
The thing that bothers me is all this shit is from roughly a decade ago... If you look at my social media stuff from a decade or more ago, I say some pretty out there shit too. He even, since then but before this current media madness, has apologized for his past behavior and persona and said he is a different person. At this point, it's like people aren't allowed to change -- they're always who they once we're apparently. What ever happened to forgiveness and redemption?
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Problem is that even he doesn't believe in such a thing. Shortly before this all happened he was advocating for this exact type of thing to happen to others. He's eating his own medicine.

That aside, anyone that comes close to displaying pedophilia as a joke or something less serious than it is is simply not something Disney can be associated with for obvious reasons. They rely on the marketing illusion that they're all about family too much to risk weakening that.
 
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Problem is that even he doesn't believe in such a thing. Shortly before this all happened he was advocating for this exact type of thing to happen to others. He's eating his own medicine.
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Yeah I'm not familiar with that, honestly. I do wonder if the people he was SJWing against we're as openly repetentant as he was, but going down that path does bring me dangerously close to blind fanboyism in many people's eyes, I'm sure.

But yeah, the key factor that makes it different with him, to me, isn't just that it was in the past -- it's that he repented of his own accord, prior to any duress from the media. In that case, the Christian thing to do is to forget and forgive.
 
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pharmakos said:
Yeah I'm not familiar with that, honestly. I do wonder if the people he was SJWing against we're as openly repetentant as he was, but going down that path does bring me dangerously close to blind fanboyism in many people's eyes, I'm sure.

But yeah, the key factor that makes it different with him, to me, isn't just that it was in the past -- it's that he repented of his own accord, prior to any duress from the media. In that case, the Christian thing to do is to forget and forgive.
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its still hypocritical to be guilty of the same stupidity as someone like Roseanne then burn her at the stake for one bad joke while he himself expecting to be forgiven for his MANY transgressions. fuck him. you get what you give.
 
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But yeah, the key factor that makes it different with him, to me, isn't just that it was in the past -- it's that he repented of his own accord, prior to any duress from the media. In that case, the Christian thing to do is to forget and forgive.
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Well it's a good thing that Christians are so experienced in forgetting and forgiving things to do with child rape.
 
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pharmakos said:
The thing that bothers me is all this shit is from roughly a decade ago... If you look at my social media stuff from a decade or more ago, I say some pretty out there shit too. He even, since then but before this current media madness, has apologized for his past behavior and persona and said he is a different person. At this point, it's like people aren't allowed to change -- they're always who they once we're apparently. What ever happened to forgiveness and redemption?
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that's b/c ppl don't change, Bill Cosby can't come out and say "that was 25 years ago, come on man, JELLO!!!"
 
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that's b/c ppl don't change, Bill Cosby can't come out and say "that was 25 years ago, come on man, JELLO!!!"
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I can understand and appreciate all the other rebuttals so far, but not this one. People absolutely do change. Whether or not you want to forgive them after they change is up to you, but to claim that no one ever, anywhere, has ever seen the error of their ways and then changed, is hogwash.

Cosby is a poor analogy, based on what we know. Cosby thinks he did nothing wrong, and has plead innocent. Gunn, as far as we know, never raped anyone like Cosby has, but Gunn does not claim innocence -- he admits guilt over the way he was in the past, he does not deny it like Cosby.

Maybe Gunn actually did rape someone, and if he did, I'll change my tune. But as far as we know, he didn't.
 
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