"I'm a fucking idiot, what do I do now?", he said to his wife.

Yep, unless a cop, in uniform, meets you there don't do it. There's absolutely no reason he should be concerned about whether or not you have the car and whether or not it's in tact. That's fucking retarded that he would even say that unless he's planning some shady shit. I would make sure they know I've talked to the police and am working with an attorney to settle the matter whether they cooperate or not (of course, pointing out the video footage and written statements of the titlemax employees).

Also, why would someone have temporary plates if they're not going to be sent new plates? How would that make any sense?

Aren't they at least 90 days anyway? Why the fuck wouldn't they just have put their plates on the new car before selling you the old one (because there's no way they'd be close to expired if they bought the new car after selling the old one)?

Tarrant_sl said:

Use your remaining $1,700 and hire a hit man imo.

I think you'd win if it went to civil court but I don't know why you wouldn't have had a bill of sale wrote on site when you got the car. Without a title the police will in fact probably charge you if they come looking for you.

I dunno man, there are much more educated arm chair lawyers on here then me when it comes to these things.

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If the NSA wasn't monitoring this thread I might know somebody who is a problem solver and that $1700 + costs of travel would cover his charges...

I've taken to some street justice by releasing personal info on Reddit against some guy that beat a gay friends ass because he was gay while the owners of a club laughed at him. Reddit can take care of some serious shit if you post in the Las Vegas or Nevada sub reddit.

I still think the simplistic explanation is probably the correct one. I don't see how a scam with the details we have would work. I think one of their parents or friends gave them the car of they took over the payments. Wantin to go gamble it away or get some coke or something, they sold you the car and payed off the lien. Anyone can payoff a loan. The title company, once the loan was payed, took te lien off the title. They had no responsibility regarding the sale of the vehicle or transfer of title. I mean, since you have not seen the actual title, this seems to all fit. You could try calling the title max and seeing if theyll tell you exactly the names on the title, though I'm guessing they can't.

So are you enjoying your new car at least?

As far as I understand it, the scam was such:

Put leveraged car up for sale. Find buyer. Have buyer pay off lien on car. Keep title. Report car stolen.

Report car stolen is really tripping them up. It sounds like bouncer boyfriend doesn't wanna get the law involved, he just wants to beat the car out of you.

Keep the tags. Get the law involved. I have a feeling that TitleMax bearssomeresponsibility in their oversight of the transaction.

Do you even grift, bro?

It's a really simple grift. And a really stupid one. If they're pulling this crap my guess is that one of them has been caught doing it before.

The only thing that doesn't make sense to me on the grift aspect is why throw a hissy fit over getting the plates? Is that just their excuse for holding up the process? What if he just would have sent the plates off, then what would they do other than get the law involved? If it is a grift they are terrible at it...

hodj_sl said:

I have no idea how to handle this except to say it might be a good idea to get yourself a gun if they know your address. I would.

Don't want to be a sitting duck if this escalates and the police refuse to get involved.

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Guns are never the answer! You are such a racist!

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The only thing that doesn't make sense to me on the grift aspect is why throw a hissy fit over getting the plates? Is that just their excuse for holding up the process? What if he just would have sent the plates off, then what would they do other than get the law involved? If it is a grift they are terrible at it...

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Maybe I'm misunderstanding the situation. It's likely.

If they get the plates they don't have to do anything except for take the car back. What they have right now is title + payment. What they have then is payment, title, plates. With the plates theycango ahead and report it stolen and have a towtruck go get it back for them if they want to be fancy -- or they can go and just take it back with a spare key themselves.

As a grift it's seriously retarded. What they seem to expect is that as soon as girlfriend freaks out and yells, "No you send me the plates or i'll say you stole it" that.... people will send the plates, and chalk up 8 grand as a "that bitch be crazy"? And if that doesn't work, then we rely on meathead boyfriend and more direct physical intimidation. If they were going to report this car stolen they would have already done it.

I'm not saying they're remarkably competent individuals. As soon as a cop who sorta-kinda gives a fuck actually looks at this it'll fall apart on them.

However, with enough booze and marijuana this plan would make sense.

if this is a scam, these people def are not pros. already have phone records from the scammers and you have the car and plates. seriously dude just call your local TV stations and see if they will run with this story because it will air and you will get some kind of satisfaction after everything is said and done. at least stop them from doing this shit to somebody else.