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Derkon

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I dunno, XSEED lost some key people who worked on CS1+2. Outside of a few item descriptions the localization for CS3 was fine.
 

Vorph

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After Ys VIII I would just prefer to never see NISA's name on any series I give a damn about.
 

Intrinsic

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Just wrapped up True sending on DQ XI. Took about 110 hours overall. That includes probably 5 hours of afk time and maybe 5-6 hours of goofing off in the casino. Could easily cut it down to Platinum to sub 90 hours of you used a guide. Tried to do most of it blind except the crafting part. And I do still have an issue where I’ve got the in game accolades for talking to Cows and all the costumes, but cannot pop the trophy on the PS4. Sucks. Also that it is on PS4 and knowing that I’d have more content on Switch since I’m already damn 110 hours invested.

Really really cool and I almost think it is ridiculous they hid all this behind a “post-game” monicker. It is actual game plot and basically DQ XI part 2. A little massaging of the first half of the game and you could almost just run the Opening Credits at the point you now get the “ending credits” then roll in to the 2nd half. Kind of like World I’d Ruin or what have you.

Anyways, nice tie in to the other DQs. Lots of things to like. It isn’t ground breaking or doing anything new, but straightforward JRPG.

Dislikes.... menus suck and feel antiquated, not surprising. Shopping sucks and likewise feels old. Max buy/sell limit of 9 is balls. Pep Powers were underwhelming and feels like I barely used them. Combat became kind of boring overall until late late in to post game with the trials and wheel.

True Ending credits are a buncha member berries for all the previous DQ.
 
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Intrinsic

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Holy shit 110 hours. That means i still have 50 to go.

That was to platinum everything, get to 99 on everyone, so basically it all. Plus my afk time on conference calls. You could beat it much earlier but the final boss isn’t a joke at all. Neither is the 5th Trial or 5th Wheel thing.
 

Asshat wormie

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That was to platinum everything, get to 99 on everyone, so basically it all. Plus my afk time on conference calls. You could beat it much earlier but the final boss isn’t a joke at all. Neither is the 5th Trial or 5th Wheel thing.
I was thinking of going platinum
 

AladainAF

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After Ys VIII I would just prefer to never see NISA's name on any series I give a damn about.

My first really bad experience with NISA was actually Ar Tonelico 2 for the PS2, which had a game breeaking bug in the final boss that more or less required you to grind a LOT to be high enough levels to beat the final boss within 3 fucking turns or else it would lock up your PS2. How that kinda shit was never caught is beyond me. As far as I know they never even bothered to send out replacement CDs, just recommended grinding.


Then yes, they butchered Ys 8. That was maddening.
 

Izo

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Lots on sale ps4 atm. Any recommendations? Finished ni no kuni II, well the base game.
 
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The_Black_Log Foler

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Trials of Mana anyone? Haven't played Mana series.
 
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Vorph

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Trials of Mana anyone? Haven't played Mana series.
Try the demo. I liked SD3 back in the day and was interested in a remake, but I found the demo really underwhelming.
 
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Malakriss

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ToM Demo doesn't even get to the point where you get the first magic. So the only combat you're seeing is low level melee which is not that engaging.
 

Khane

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ToM Demo doesn't even get to the point where you get the first magic. So the only combat you're seeing is low level melee which is not that engaging.

Sounds like a really bad strategy for luring new players via a demo.
 

Intrinsic

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Yeah now that DQ11 is done I need to find something else preferably cheap and on PC / Steam. Don't want another $60 PS4 game at the moment and not really feeling FFVIIR. Looking over my Steam library at things never played;

Valkyria Chronicles
Tyranny (wtf even is this? Must have been in some Humble pack or something)
Soma

uggghhh never mind, got annoyed just scrolling through all the shit...
 

The_Black_Log Foler

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So is the consensus DQ11 is amazing? My current to-do lineup is Zelda, octopath traveler, tales of vesperia. Thinking of adding DQ11, ff12, Chronicles of Mana.

Should DQ11 jump to front of the line?
 

Intrinsic

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So is the consensus DQ11 is amazing? My current to-do lineup is Zelda, octopath traveler, tales of vesperia. Thinking of adding DQ11, ff12, Chronicles of Mana.

Should DQ11 jump to front of the line?

It isn’t amazing or anything but it is solid if you like JRGs. Drags a bit in places and like my post above the story really comes together in Post Game which is like 50 hours in.
 
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Droigan

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Trials of Mana anyone? Haven't played Mana series.

I am about 10 hours in.

- Voice acting is ... horrible. As is the dialogue really. But the delivery is just odd. There are sentences where they emphasise just random words, speed up or slow down in the middle. Granted I've only heard most of Angela, the spear lady and the little girl. I went Angela to grind some silver seeds in the demo and the spear lady had good DPS when I tried her. Little girl was only healer I saw. The girl speaks in some weird tone where they try to make her talk like a child with "W" instead of "L" in words, but it just comes off weird. Though her dialogue is at least consistent. Angela sounds like a confused valley girl. The way voices and dialogue is presented (so far) it appears that their target demographic are children. It's the type of dialogue/acting/delivery setup you'd expect from something your 8-10 year old would watch. Can switch to Japanese voices.

- Graphically - Meh? It's not bad, but certainly not good either. Average.

- Combat. 10 hours in, and 90%of my attacks on the spear lady are pure melee. MP is still so low that you don't really use spells often, and spells only unlock as you gain elementals. I have no spells on spear lady. There are 8 elementals to get and I have 4 so far (you unlock wind, light, earth and dark before you open up the world to where you can pick where to go after that). You can only use spells that you have the element for. You have 2 passive skills that unlock to 4 once you get to class change (level 18, I was level 20 when I got to the place that let me do it, next one is level 38 + need an item). There are 4? class changes. Those unlock extra skills. IE: I had holy bolt (light skill) and the class change let me get holy bolt +. So far my mage has 2 spells and healer has 2 + 2 summons (that are basically spells).

Point being, I can see combat evolving to use more skills, but even 10 hours in, I mostly just mash attacks. I play on hard, and up until the bosses around 7 hours in, everything is easy, then suddenly I had to spam items. One boss was actually kind of cool as it was a door with lots of different AE attacks that you had to dodge, but sadly that is also where the AI kicks in (or I should say, it doesn't kick in). If there is an AE attack, your party members will stand in it. And you can't really switch party members to run each one out as they start moving once you switch. They can also use massive spam of their best spells on trash mobs, but suddenly (even though their AI tactics are the same) do nothing but melee a boss.

It's fluid though. Not noticed any frame drops or lag.

- Story. Very generic so far. Manatree dying, need to find 8 elementals. Big bad apparently behind the scenes. Not sure what happens later. Encountered a few of the people you can pick at the start, but nobody except the three I picked at the start have joined me. Not sure how much of the early game changes based on who you pick, but assume it has to be fairly significant as up until this point, everything I've done have been mostly tied to my characters.

Oh, and loading times on PS4 are bad. Because there are so many. You load into a place (10 seconds), have a cut scene, run out of place (load), enter city only to have to exit it (load). Once you have a place loaded though, most everything in it is instant, so entering buildings/exiting is fast. But sometimes, especially when you have to backtrack and just pass through places, it is noticeable.

I'll probably keep on playing it, but would I recommend it based on what I have played so far? Not really. Going from FF7 remake and Persona 5 golden to this is jarring.

Wait for sale. Will update if this changes, but in all honesty, 8 hours after the demo, there really isn't much "more" than what the demo showed you.
 
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joz123

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Free Pac-Man right now on PS Store also.
 
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Izo

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Free Pac-Man right now on PS Store also.
Have to play tutorials to play, weird. Ah well, raced through them.