Justice League (2017)

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Why would anyone want or need a black superman when we have the greatest black hero ever
 
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some funny headlines this week.
Spider-Man: Far From Home Trends As Fans Twatter Claims It's Best Spidey Movie

Not shitting on it, but hardly the best. Was more like one of those comics after a major event, some filler stuff connecting to past event, meh villian that mostly plays on the hero's self doubts, but writers don't really have an idea quite yet on a new story arc. Spiderman 2 was my personal fav just due to a mostly awesome Doc Oc
 

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Spider-Man: Far From Home Trends As Fans Twatter Claims It's Best Spidey Movie

Not shitting on it, but hardly the best. Was more like one of those comics after a major event, some filler stuff connecting to past event, meh villian that mostly plays on the hero's self doubts, but writers don't really have an idea quite yet on a new story arc. Spiderman 2 was my personal fav just due to a mostly awesome Doc Oc
Raimi's Spidey 2 was the best film. probably best Marvel character film til the MCU. i linked the wrong headline because that site changes the URL if you scroll down too far. i had to go back and find the first headline.
 
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J.K. Simmons was the perfect J Jonah Jamison, no matter what he is in, I can't unsee the moustache or take him seriously as anything else., including his real self.

Being on topic, I found him really distracting as the choice for Commissioner Gordon for this reason. He didn't do anything wrong, just expected him to sprout a moustache and start yelling ridiculous demands.
 
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A lot of the characters were perfectly cast for the Snyder/Miller style of DC. I was fine with Simmons portrayal (for me its hard to not see the guy from Ladykillers), but also loved Jeremy Irons as Alfred who I feel really nailed the part. Same with Dianne Cannon and even Amy Adams. In the restored cut, Fischer is actually spot on on the darker comic book Cyborg. Batfleck minus the Whedon forced quips is the perfect old man Batman/Wayne. Cavil (ignoring MoS plot choices) is the perfect Superman, if you are not into the Donner movies. Aquaman was a lot better as a grim guy in this movie, again free of the forced Whedon humor. Only character that was miscast was Flash, but even that was better in this cut of the movie thanks to the removal of all the scenes where Whedon turned him into a complete retard. And I agree with Haus that John Wesley Ship is the closest anyone has come to nailing the character, though I would love to see Nathon Fillion in that role personally (but he is cast in SS2). And absent that horrible fucking WW84 agenda bulllshit, Galdot was again solid in her role.

Whedon, as discussed, is incapable of working with anything outside of his Buffyverse style. I think Age of Ultron more or less proves that the first Avengers was the exception and not the rule with him (Ultrom being objectively the worst modern MCU movie, in my view) and thats why Feige dumped him (metoo was just a convenient excuse). The night and day quality of the two cuts is so obvious that only the WB version of Kennedy (and those who worship at the same woke altar) still feel the Whedon cut is superior. I mean, how fucking sad is it that the funniest Flash (Supes confrontation) scene was actually Snyder's and not even Whedon? And that with all the fucking reshot bullshit in just that one scene that Whedon crammed in.

They have a deep seated incentive to quash any remaining remnants of the Snyder version of DCU, in that his work appeals to men on a visceral level. The movies 300, Watchmen, and Sin City were fucking testosterone fueled fucking movies that resonate with normal people, especially male audiences who lay out the most cash for this media. And those people hate that. That's why instead of what fans have reacted favorably towards, we get the shitshow that was WW84, with proposed blackwashing movies of Batman and Supes, instead of building on the success of Shazam and Aquaman.

I honestly thought Disney is where we would see the final showdown between the woke and the shekel counters, but if AT&T decides to dick slap WB again, this might be the arena where it gets fought out first. This is especially true with their golden boy Whedon now getting openly shit on by the entire cast and the massive debacle that WW84 ended up being. As someone here said previously, WW84 was so bad I left my own house. All eyes are now on AT&T, especially if Gunn's SS sequel ends up living up to its hype. The wokesters can keep their CW shit to wank over their Fee Fees. As a huge fan of Frank Miller's work and the darker DC stuff, the Snyder related projects hit the right notes with me and I know I am far from alone in this. I mean I am pretty sure the shitty CGI on Cavell's mustache cost more than what completing this cut did, and who thinks that was money better spent? I guess we will find out, but this is basically a huge casualty to the woke invasion of culture if WB Bizarro Kennedy prevails in this fight, because we can now objectively see what might have been. This could have been a solid competition between two similar but different IPs in the same genre (much like Star Wars vs Trek back in the 70s and 80s were), but instead thanks to wokeness it is a race to the bottom for both.
 
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You mean, Panderman. There is zero reason to make Superman black other than to assert full cultural dominance at this point.
marvel already made a black superman, blue marvel is black superman with a phd, actually he's supposed to be 9th smartest human or something.
 

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Why would the 9th smartest person even dress up like a bat? Plenty of better options to choose from. Covid happened and no one suddenly developed an insane fear of bats. He could go reverse batman and wear a mask over his mouth and suddenly everyone would consider him the devil.
 
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A lot of the characters were perfectly cast for the Snyder/Miller style of DC. I was fine with Simmons portrayal (for me its hard to not see the guy from Ladykillers), but also loved Jeremy Irons as Alfred who I feel really nailed the part. Same with Dianne Cannon and even Amy Adams. In the restored cut, Fischer is actually spot on on the darker comic book Cyborg. Batfleck minus the Whedon forced quips is the perfect old man Batman/Wayne. Cavil (ignoring MoS plot choices) is the perfect Superman, if you are not into the Donner movies. Aquaman was a lot better as a grim guy in this movie, again free of the forced Whedon humor. Only character that was miscast was Flash, but even that was better in this cut of the movie thanks to the removal of all the scenes where Whedon turned him into a complete retard. And I agree with Haus that John Wesley Ship is the closest anyone has come to nailing the character, though I would love to see Nathon Fillion in that role personally (but he is cast in SS2). And absent that horrible fucking WW84 agenda bulllshit, Galdot was again solid in her role.

Whedon, as discussed, is incapable of working with anything outside of his Buffyverse style. I think Age of Ultron more or less proves that the first Avengers was the exception and not the rule with him (Ultrom being objectively the worst modern MCU movie, in my view) and thats why Feige dumped him (metoo was just a convenient excuse). The night and day quality of the two cuts is so obvious that only the WB version of Kennedy (and those who worship at the same woke altar) still feel the Whedon cut is superior. I mean, how fucking sad is it that the funniest Flash (Supes confrontation) scene was actually Snyder's and not even Whedon? And that with all the fucking reshot bullshit in just that one scene that Whedon crammed in.

They have a deep seated incentive to quash any remaining remnants of the Snyder version of DCU, in that his work appeals to men on a visceral level. The movies 300, Watchmen, and Sin City were fucking testosterone fueled fucking movies that resonate with normal people, especially male audiences who lay out the most cash for this media. And those people hate that. That's why instead of what fans have reacted favorably towards, we get the shitshow that was WW84, with proposed blackwashing movies of Batman and Supes, instead of building on the success of Shazam and Aquaman.

I honestly thought Disney is where we would see the final showdown between the woke and the shekel counters, but if AT&T decides to dick slap WB again, this might be the arena where it gets fought out first. This is especially true with their golden boy Whedon now getting openly shit on by the entire cast and the massive debacle that WW84 ended up being. As someone here said previously, WW84 was so bad I left my own house. All eyes are now on AT&T, especially if Gunn's SS sequel ends up living up to its hype. The wokesters can keep their CW shit to wank over their Fee Fees. As a huge fan of Frank Miller's work and the darker DC stuff, the Snyder related projects hit the right notes with me and I know I am far from alone in this. I mean I am pretty sure the shitty CGI on Cavell's mustache cost more than what completing this cut did, and who thinks that was money better spent? I guess we will find out, but this is basically a huge casualty to the woke invasion of culture if WB Bizarro Kennedy prevails in this fight, because we can now objectively see what might have been. This could have been a solid competition between two similar but different IPs in the same genre (much like Star Wars vs Trek back in the 70s and 80s were), but instead thanks to wokeness it is a race to the bottom for both.
AT&T has to be straight up retards if they dont revive the Snyderverse at this point. the thing is that cunt, Sarnoff already slapped her cock on the table and said the Snyderverse is over and woke shit is on the menu from now on. will AT&T tell her that its their way or the highway or will they collapse their own IP by giving in to this bullshit? mind you, DC is not making money for them. if they allow the woke to ruin one of their few successful prospects then they deserve everything they get.
 
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It's crazy that we give Snyder complete control and he puts out this cut that honestly most people received very well. It's ridiculous the studios can't acknowledge this and let him have complete control over some IP going forward.
 
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It's crazy that we give Snyder complete control and he puts out this cut that honestly most people received very well. It's ridiculous the studios can't acknowledge this and let him have complete control over some IP going forward.
Have you ever met a hollywood ego?
 
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However, IF AT&T finds that Max is getting a bump in subs sufficient to make them reconsider, it IS up to them, not WB. Which, of course, is part of the reason WB hates all this. AT&T is showing the whole world just how badly they've fucked up the DC universe. And after marvel made it look so easy.
 

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It's crazy that we give Snyder complete control and he puts out this cut that honestly most people received very well. It's ridiculous the studios can't acknowledge this and let him have complete control over some IP going forward.
The Snyder cut is already super progressive, btw: Wonder Woman has tons of lines that speak to super stronk WOMENS, Like "You can be anything you want", "I belong to no one" Super muscle chicks hammering down the temple, etc. If you ever want to know what the progressive color counters want to think (REPRESENTATION!!!) watch Grace Randolph's show, she said Josstice League was the Racistiest because they cut so much of Cyborg's story and Flash saving his girlfriend Iris West "the only two characters of color" /breathless.

I think Midnight's Edge had the right of it, WB vs. AT&T is very much like Lucasfilm vs. Disney where there is a split between these radicalized Hollywood companies who want to use these IPs for political purposes and the fans, who want their IPs to be good and not bastardized in the name of Cultural Marxism. Marvel is just doing this a little more slowly and subtly but they are going to do it too, I think because they believe that Twitter is the world and Captain Marvel made a $1B.

If only these companies could find better fans. /s These properties are either going to have to crash and burn or someone in charge is going to have to affirmatively take steps like AT&T to prevent these Woke Cultural Marxists from ruining these properties. Alternatively, if it doesn't exist on Twitter, it doesn't exist for these companies, so #RestoretheSnyderVerse, either in combination with some loss or if the Snydercut continues to put up big numbers is the only way this going to come back. Maybe it comes back as a series or several series on HBOMAX, which might be a Win/Win.
 
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There are ways to present prog concepts that do not shit on the whole thing or even add to the story. The exchange between Sam and the kid in Falcon and the Winter Soldier is another great example of that thing done right. I felt Cyborg in the restored cut was an exceptional example of how to do this correctly. For examples on the other end, one need only look at the ridiculous Trump stand in in WW84 or the entire CW Supergirl series.
 
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The Snyder cut is already super progressive, btw: Wonder Woman has tons of lines that speak to super stronk WOMENS, Like "You can be anything you want", "I belong to no one" Super muscle chicks hammering down the temple, etc. If you ever want to know what the progressive color counters want to think (REPRESENTATION!!!) watch Grace Randolph's show, she said Josstice League was the Racistiest because they cut so much of Cyborg's story and Flash saving his girlfriend Iris West "the only two characters of color" /breathless.

I think Midnight's Edge had the right of it, WB vs. AT&T is very much like Lucasfilm vs. Disney where there is a split between these radicalized Hollywood companies who want to use these IPs for political purposes and the fans, who want their IPs to be good and not bastardized in the name of Cultural Marxism. Marvel is just doing this a little more slowly and subtly but they are going to do it too, I think because they believe that Twitter is the world and Captain Marvel made a $1B.

If only these companies could find better fans. /s These properties are either going to have to crash and burn or someone in charge is going to have to affirmatively take steps like AT&T to prevent these Woke Cultural Marxists from ruining these properties. Alternatively, if it doesn't exist on Twitter, it doesn't exist for these companies, so #RestoretheSnyderVerse, either in combination with some loss or if the Snydercut continues to put up big numbers is the only way this going to come back. Maybe it comes back as a series or several series on HBOMAX, which might be a Win/Win.
Wait was that random black chick in the car supposed to be Iris West? Why would they blackwash the same character twice, have they just retconned Iris West to be black now as part of comics canon?
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Oh thats right, any character with red hair has to be blackwashed. I forgot The Plan.