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The kind that enjoys his superheroes grounded in a semblance of reality without faggy magical superhero powers that are created by writers on a whim to advance whatever narrative they are currently trying to sell you on?
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Kirun
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Seriously. That last scene has me so pissed off, even days later. That almost completely ruined the entire thing for me. You could have plugged Captain Marvel into this movie and it would've been the same thing. This wasn't a Superman movie. It was almost entirely a Zod/Kryptonian movie. It had almost nothing that makes Superman, "Superman".
As for Zod's death, I think the movie would have been much better served if Superman only accidentally killed Zod. Imagine a tug of war of sorts with Zod trying to turn his head to heat beam the people while Superman tries to turn him away. They go back and forth a bit, until Superman overdoes it and accidentally snaps Zod's neck. This would have been a great (and more believable) moment of personal anguish and guilt for Superman and a grim reminder of the responsibilty of his awesome power.
and then the giant spider attacks....
and then the giant spider attacks....
Artistic license is not always popular heh. Characters/stories get changed all the time and while not always popular it is important that writers are free to keep doing it. Superman is no exception. Pretty much every superhero has seen dramatic changes over the years. Batman has gone from being flamboyantly gay to being one of the moodiest/dark superheroes there is. I'm sure some people were not pleased to see Batman get darkened up, and thought the character should of just stayed with the BAM, POW! bullshit from the 1960s. Superman usually only has his power level fucked up, but in this case they wanted to cut back on the boy scout routine.
Personally he still felt like Superman to me. Just a flawed, far more human version of Superman. Which I loved. To each his own though.
Kirun
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He's more than that, though. He's an alien that is a far better human than humans will ever be. He's an ideal to strive for.
Hell, I was totally digging the movie when he's speeding around, saving the pilots and stuff during the street brawl, all while fighting off the Kryptonians, and Zod's bitch gives the "For every one you save, we'll kill a million more!". Especially after the badass scene where he floats out into space, after Jor-el gives him the "You can save them. You can same them all!" line. I was totally in a "Fuck yeah! That's Superman!" mode. Unfortunately, that all got completely disregarded in favor of shit blowing up in neat ways, toward the end of the film.
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Void
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Don't even think of stealing my "Man of Steel (Superfriends 0) - 1 Year Later" thread.
Exactly.
Just because he puts on the suit, doesn't mean he becomes max level Superman. I really enjoyed how flawed he was, growing into his role as Superman.
Frenzied Wombat
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His failure to make any effort in minimizing civilian casualties or mitigating wanton destruction isn't a "rookie mistake". A rookie mistake would be such things as not knowing the limits of his powers and accidentally hurting someone. Choosing to ignore thousands of people dying around you is a morality based choice; I don't see how a more "seasoned" Superman swings from a moral level of "I don't give a shit" to "oh nos, must save humans".I could buy the "neophyte superman" argument IF some attempts were made to bait Zod out of the city and he failed, but all we see is endless wanton destruction and Supes doesn't seem to give a shit until one lonesome family is about to get incinerated by Zod.
let's face it, Snyder wanted to film the epic destruction of an entire city, which is ok because I agree it would be vastly more entertaining than if Supes lured Zod and company into the deserted wilderness. However, Snyder failed to incorporate the human scenes necessary to make this scenario feel "real". Where was the death, misery, and blood? Where is Supes despondent and frustrated reaction to being an unwilling participant in the deaths of thousands of human beings? The city's destruction seems more like a convenient visual platform for amazing CGI and superhero hand to hand combat than it does as a plot device. They could have capitalized on the wanton destruction and focused on the human element for a bit, but they didn't.
Will I buy the Blu-Ray and fast forward to the fight scenes and watch them repeatedly? Yeah. Will I watch the "movie" again? No thanks. Again, if it actually focused on story and developed the characters, rather than just being a "Superman beating shit up" CGI demo it could have been GREAT instead of just good.
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He's a fucking farmboy who, for the first time in his life, is fighting with people every bit as strong as he is. From your post I'm going to assume you've never been in a fight in your entire life, because if you had you would know how hard it is to consider anything other than trying to keep from getting your ass beat, especially when you're just some random dude who grew up on a farm and the people you're fighting have spent their entire life either in combat or training for it. That lone family is the first time he was actually directly confronted with humans about to die as a result of his fight with Zod.
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Not only that he is fighting peopel ho are military trained and is not far into realizing what he is capable of doing.
Besides, 10,000 people die in the city? Know whats worsE? 6 billion in the rest of the world getting killed. I was fine with how they did things and how they handeled that.
Besides, 10,000 people die in the city? Know whats worsE? 6 billion in the rest of the world getting killed. I was fine with how they did things and how they handeled that.
You guys are making excuses. You are pretending this isn't a made up movie. You are acting like someone just filmed some random people fighting and now you are trying to explain what happened.
Snyder had full control of the movie and was able to dictate exactly what was going on and decided that he was going to destroy the city and kill people.
Stop with the battered wife syndrome and stop trying to explain it away as a one time event and now Superman has learned. Snyder wrote a shitty aspect in the movie.
Snyder had full control of the movie and was able to dictate exactly what was going on and decided that he was going to destroy the city and kill people.
Stop with the battered wife syndrome and stop trying to explain it away as a one time event and now Superman has learned. Snyder wrote a shitty aspect in the movie.
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lol laughed out loud in the theatre when Zod said to Superman, "I HAVE MASTERED MY SENSES AND I WAS BRED TO BE A WARRIOR. WHERE WEREYOUTRAINED? A FARM?" as he began to float.
fucking burn.
Yeah I'm sure there would have been a lot less bitching and crying if Superman was able to beat all the bad guys and save all the people without any property damage at all.
Did he use gadgets?
If he did he wasn't a supervillain.
Unless they were evil space gadgets.
Then maybe.