Marriage and the Power of Divorce

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I think I've found one thing in my marriage that may cause a problem later. I am a pretty agreeable person in general and willing to compromise on just about everything as I am able to roll with the punches and adjust to most things. On my woman's side she is seemingly unable to compromise to the extent that I don't even bother. I just do whatever without her input entirely because she won't even entertain the notion of compromise in most cases. Much to my frustration.

I am not exaggerating here when I say she refuses 100% of anything. Doesn't matter what it is. She refuses outright as a first response and sometimes comes around to agreeing (if she does at all) hours or days later. It's completely stupid.

Her response is that I must keep asking until she decides to not refuse. Which is really really stupid and I am not doing that.

Not really sure how to get her to realize how unreasonable and stupid this perspective of her's is. But it's whatever for now and I deal with it.
You aren't going to change that. Do you guys have kids yet?
 
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You aren't going to change that. Do you guys have kids yet?
Yeah, but she only recently started acting this way. I would have noticed it when we started dating in 2015 otherwise. This is a 2020-2022 development.
 

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Yeah, but she only recently started acting this way. I would have noticed it when we started dating in 2015 otherwise. This is a 2020-2022 development.
Oh, ok. In that case, I would say something. I'm not an agreeable person, though.
 
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Nobody said happy marriages don't exist. But a bunch of EQ nerds who married their high-school sweethearts in an age before she had constant, easy access to better dick has to be taken with a grain of salt. Especially with divorce, marriage satisfaction, etc. statistics being what they are. Your anecdotes aren't really indicative of the overall "relationship" picture.

You're pretty much saying what cad did. Us old married guys have been out of the game too long to give good dating advice. What we can advise on is how to stay married.


I think I've found one thing in my marriage that may cause a problem later. I am a pretty agreeable person in general and willing to compromise on just about everything as I am able to roll with the punches and adjust to most things. On my woman's side she is seemingly unable to compromise to the extent that I don't even bother. I just do whatever without her input entirely because she won't even entertain the notion of compromise in most cases. Much to my frustration.

I am not exaggerating here when I say she refuses 100% of anything. Doesn't matter what it is. She refuses outright as a first response and sometimes comes around to agreeing (if she does at all) hours or days later. It's completely stupid.

Her response is that I must keep asking until she decides to not refuse. Which is really really stupid and I am not doing that.

Not really sure how to get her to realize how unreasonable and stupid this perspective of her's is. But it's whatever for now and I deal with it.

You're simply not asking the right questions.

"You wanna skip the BJ tonight?"
"No"
"OK, well lets get it over with then" /unzips pants
 
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Better yet tell her if she keeps that shit up you're going to get a Russian au-pair.
 
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Obvious exaggeration, but there's seems to be a very high degree of "let's lock this down" in the 40-sometgings I've dated
That's because they are at the wall. Chances of a woman getting married at that age is pretty low. Dont settle.
 

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Wife is taking a solo work vacation for a month. She has a remote work schedule so doesn’t matter where she is as long as internet is available. Whole month of just my daughter and I, that is by far the longest being apart since 2001.


I am really interested in how thing are going to be at the 20 day mark, she will be missed but at the same time not having her around is going to allow a freedom I have not experienced in over 20 years. I mean I currently do have her support to do all my hobbies but this is different.


Shit, if my daughter wasn’t around I would likely just go to work and then be the worst version of myself because who cares...

The no sex thing is going to be rough as well, we ain’t fucking like rabbits but last time I went 30 days was when she gave birth and was healing and that was 15 years ago.
 

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That's because they are at the wall. Chances of a woman getting married at that age is pretty low. Dont settle.
This. There is not a single woman in her 40s without some sort of serious baggage. Thats not to say there are not workable issues or things beyond their control (widowed, husband fucked around, family commitments of some sort) but any valid reason comes with its own bullshit.
 
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and then be the worst version of myself because who cares...

My wife also works remote and travels to the home office for two weeks every so often. These times re-illustrate to me how being responsible to other people can be a very positive influence. I slip back into my worst self pretty quickly and don't benefit from it.
 
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Better yet tell her if she keeps that shit up you're going to get a Russian au-pair.
i choose violence GIF
 

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Urlithani, bro, you miscounted the number of kids you have. You essentially have a 3rd one.

I've been married for 20 years; my wife can be a giant pain in the ass and I would fucking never get into a second marriage if I were to divorce now but holy fuck I guess I really have nothing to complain about. She can be a little bossy, a little illogical at times, bitchy, whiny when she's on the rag, BUT she works her ass off, cooks, cleans, does yard work, we split all that shit more or less evenly.

I don't know how I could live with a pig who lets dishes sit for a week and MMOs all day. If she blew 12k at the casino, after I chopped her into little bits, I'd file for divorce.

Just my .02 bud, but I would get out of that shitworld as fast as possible. Pull the bandaid off. Good on you for thinking of the kids but you are reaching the wrong conclusion in my opinion. It would be better for the kids to not see that shit as normal and it would be better for your happiness and well being to out of that.
 
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Kinda related as I get to have yet another on-going argument with the wife over this.

My older sister is getting remarried in her 40's. Husband-to-be is not new to the family, he's been around in some capacity or another for over a decade. It's far enough away that travel time and costs are not insignificant, but it's also not quite a destination wedding. It's during the school year, pretty much everyone involved has kids(herself included). Our mother is going to be potentially immunocompromised(cancer treatment) and not a care towards COVID was given until people pestered her about it.

My sister says she doesn't have to consult with us regarding her wedding plans, which I agree. She also says our attendance is effectively required. I don't see how those two sentences aren't at least partially contradictory.

My wife is threatening to take our son and go anyway. We've fought over this and other stuff so much recently that I'm suspecting that my objective judgment is impaired. Half the reason I don't want to go is because there's been so much contention over just deciding whether to go and how much it's going to cost.

Is there a point at which poor planning and etiquette overrules "family"?
 

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Kinda related as I get to have yet another on-going argument with the wife over this.

My older sister is getting remarried in her 40's. Husband-to-be is not new to the family, he's been around in some capacity or another for over a decade. It's far enough away that travel time and costs are not insignificant, but it's also not quite a destination wedding. It's during the school year, pretty much everyone involved has kids(herself included). Our mother is going to be potentially immunocompromised(cancer treatment) and not a care towards COVID was given until people pestered her about it.

My sister says she doesn't have to consult with us regarding her wedding plans, which I agree. She also says our attendance is effectively required. I don't see how those two sentences aren't at least partially contradictory.

My wife is threatening to take our son and go anyway. We've fought over this and other stuff so much recently that I'm suspecting that my objective judgment is impaired. Half the reason I don't want to go is because there's been so much contention over just deciding whether to go and how much it's going to cost.

Is there a point at which poor planning and etiquette overrules "family"?
I think all you can do is go or don't go, I don't think you can stop her or the kids from going. If she wants to go without you, so be it. That just shows you where her head is at, though, if she does that.

In general I'd probably say taking things down a few notches is good, make it less contentious, explain your position and what you want, and why you think she ought to agree with you.

There's nothing regarding family or friends that is "required." There's things I am willing to do and things I am not.
 
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she doesn't have to consult with us regarding her wedding plans
Absolutely.
She also says our attendance is effectively required
Absolutely not.
My wife is threatening to take our son and go anyway. We've fought over this and other stuff so much recently that I'm suspecting that my objective judgment is impaired.
Even if the reason is stupid, don't let a fight with your sister turn into a fight with your wife. (Well, unless the cost of going warrants a fight over retarded spending habits.) Either way, as a gift, send along a book on effective scheduling and a picture of your itinerary for the solo fishing trip you'll be taking during their wedding.
 
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I can't imagine "requiring" anything of family.

I don't require anyone to do shit. Requiring attendance at something is something my work does. Family ain't work, so we ain't talking about that shit.

If you want everyone to be at your fucking 2nd wedding (lets face it, the first one went the way it did for a reason, I ain't giving a shit about your 2nd), then you better make it convenient for them. If you don't, don't be surprised when I got better things to do.

Oh, and I ain't getting gifts for 2nd weddings either. Fool me once....
 
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You have to know that not going to the wedding is going to be a point of contention for years to come. On the other hand, given that your sister is the type who plans their second wedding without primary consideration for the accessibility of the guests, you probably have plenty of those already.