Marvel Universe stuff

Breakdown said:

Remember that shitty flop of a Black Widow movie? Remember that shitty flop of a captain America show? Wel what if we combined them both, removed Boack Widow and Captain America, and added Elaine from Seinfeld?



“Right into my veins”

Lol.

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You retarded?

They're taking the best parts of those and dropping the shitty parts.

Harshaw said:

Probably cuz Hulk or She-Hulk will be in it.

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That'd be a pretty weird move.

They already didn't allow Hulk or Thor to be in the other Captain America movies with the actual Captain America.

I guess it's going to be shit anyways, might as well have the main character be completely irrelevant in their own movie

Ambiturner said:

That'd be a pretty weird move.

They already didn't allow Hulk or Thor to be in the other Captain America movies with the actual Captain America.

I guess it's going to be shit anyways, might as well have the main character be completely irrelevant in their own movie

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Where would Hulk have fit in any Captain America movie? 1st was a period piece, 2nd had no reason for Hulk to be around as it was mainly Shield v Hydra, and he was on Sakaar during Civil War.

Harshaw said:

Where would Hulk have fit in any Captain America movie? 1st was a period piece, 2nd had no reason for Hulk to be around as it was mainly Shield v Hydra, and he was on Sakaar during Civil War.

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Right, and Thor was having roommate issues.

You think these are real people going through real things? They did the whole Sakaar thing as a convient excuse afterwards, but they've already admitted that Thor or Hulk in Civil War were too powerful which is why they made them be off planet while this was going on.

Ambiturner said:

Right, and Thor was having roommate issues.

You think these are real people going through real things? They did the whole Sakaar thing as a convient excuse afterwards, but they've already admitted that Thor or Hulk in Civil War were too powerful which is why they made them be off planet while this was going on.

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So you don't like when they were left out and mad that they are adding them now?

Harshaw said:

So you don't like when they were left out and mad that they are adding them now?

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I don't make if you're illiterate, or what, but them keeping the real heavy hitters out to not upstage the star in previous installments then bring them in when the star is even weaker is an odd move.

If you still don't understand it then I don't know how to break it down any simpler for you

Just because they didn't show up in Civil War cuz they were too powerful, doesn't mean they can NEVER show up in a Captain America movie. Besides, it's not even verified that Hulk is gonna be in it. I bet if it was She-Hulk this would be a moot conversation right? Oh and maybe the studio knows that Falcon America isn't enough of a draw and need a bigger name.


And are you talking about upstaging the star? Or the character? Cuz than Stark/RDJ shouldn't have been in Civil War.

Isn’t the point that Thor was tracking down and trying to prevent ragbarok after what he saw in Ultron, and Hulk was off world on Sakaar. If you think they sidelined them for power alone and not story you are ignoring that Vision was in civil war and is as strong as them.

Breakdown said:

Isn’t the point that Thor was tracking down and trying to prevent ragbarok after what he saw in Ultron, and Hulk was off world on Sakaar. If you think they sidelined them for power alone and not story you are ignoring that Vision was in civil war and is as strong as them.

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No.

They literally admitted they sidelined them for power reasons and the whole Thor and his roommate thing was a joke because they never really came up with a reason for him not being there.

You guys do realize this shit isn't real, right? Like Thor wasn't too busy back in 2016 when Civil War came out because of something they came up with in 2017.

Do you think Captain Marvel wasn't in the early movies because she was too busy doing cosmic shit and not because she didn't actually exist in the MCU?

Ambiturner said:

No.

They literally admitted they sidelined them for power reasons and the whole Thor and his roommate thing was a joke because they never really came up with a reason for him not being there.

You guys do realize this shit isn't real, right? Like Thor wasn't too busy back in 2016 when Civil War came out because of something they came up with in 2017.

Do you think Captain Marvel wasn't in the early movies because she was too busy doing cosmic shit and not because she didn't actually exist in the MCU?

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Oh so that literal scene in Ultron when The Hulk leaves to protect others and they can’t talk him down in the quinjet and then Thor says goodbye to everyone on earth and says he’s returning to Asgard and the other realms
To find out who is behind raganarok and that they don’t know when they see him again, that was all fake?

But all we should care about was the couple of non canon shorts they made at the same time as Ragnarok as a way to, and I quote Taikka and Feige directly, “introduce fans to the tone of Ragnarok.


Sounds like you are just a stupid faggot trying to ignore what’s actually in the movies

I mean, surely the comic shorts that weren’t event beginning to be developed until - year and a half after civil war was RELEASED are the key to it all

Breakdown said:

.Sounds like you are just a stupid faggot trying to ignore what’s actually in the movies

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You realise that both explanations can exist simultaneously and be true? It's not an either or situation?

Breakdown said:

Oh so that literal scene in Ultron when The Hulk leaves to protect others and they can’t talk him down in the quinjet and then Thor says goodbye to everyone on earth and says he’s returning to Asgard and the other realms
To find out who is behind raganarok and that they don’t know when they see him again, that was all fake?

But all we should care about was the couple of non canon shorts they made at the same time as Ragnarok as a way to, and I quote Taikka and Feige directly, “introduce fans to the tone of Ragnarok.


Sounds like you are just a stupid faggot trying to ignore what’s actually in the movies

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You're right.

And the writers who literally said the actual reason was that they were too powerful are clearly the wrong ones.

Ambiturner said:

You're right.

And the writers who literally said the actual reason was that they were too powerful are clearly the wrong ones.

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And you realize that different writers of different movies don't have to worry about their reasons right? The Russos said they intended for Hulk to never heal from the Thanos snap... And guess what, that changed too. They had reasons for them not being in Civil War that are MCU canon and not just what some writers thought. If you think they weren't planning Civil War while they were making Avengers Ultron, you are wrong. The Russos did both films. So they had already written Thor and Hulk out in AoU before Civil War. They knew they weren't going to use them and they knew they were gonna be in Raganarok together. Acting like the MCU was planned out movie by movie is just wrong.

Araysar said:

How did Quinjet get to Sakaar again?

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You mean Hulk getting sucked into one of those shitload of portals that dump into Sakaar? Which is how he said he got there.

The in universe reason is the stuff that happened with Hulk and Thor in Age of Ultron leading to Thor: Ragnarok.

The real life reason is that the characters were too powerful for the hero vs hero story they wanted to tell, so they were written out at the end of Age of Ultron.

Shut up now.

Stop having such retarded arguments that it gives Chris an opportunity to be right about something.

I'm not convinced they wrote out Thor/Hulk for power reasons when Wanda/Vision were still in it. Wanda damn near solo'd the other team half the fight.