Mass Effect 4(Untitled)

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well RIP bioware



i mean it was inevitable after the shit show of the last dragon age
 
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Cybsled

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Not just that, but Anthem was a very expensive flop as well. When was the last successful BioWare game? Like a decade ago?
 

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Dragon Age: Inquisition (2014)? I don't even know how that did financially, but that is probably the last well-received BioWare game.
 
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I remember my friend moving across country and working his butt off to get a job at his dream company, Bioware. Only to discover it was a hollow shell and all the people who had made the games that got him into Dev were gone. Got stuck on Star Wars the Old Republic life support for a few years, then said fuck it, if I'm going to work for soulless shitheads I'll at least make money doing it and went to Zynga.
 
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Dragon Age: Inquisition (2014)? I don't even know how that did financially, but that is probably the last well-received BioWare game.
They've been pulling Barvs for a decade. I am surprised they lasted this long.
 
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the rats will just invade new ports.

I was just about to say this - I would rather have these companies stay in business and keep the cats herded in a couple places instead of infesting everything else.
 

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I was just about to say this - I would rather have these companies stay in business and keep the cats herded in a couple places instead of infesting everything else.
I could be wrong, but I'd think that having so many flops on a resume would be toxic. There are a lot of unemployed game devs with toxic resumes right now.
 

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Seeing this headline even a decade ago would have made me very sad, but I simply don't care at all at this point. Honestly, it's kind of insane they were allowed to keep running with 400+ people receiving big salaries for the last 10 years considering their output. If anything, EA has been extremely generous to them.

EA acquired Bioware in 2007 for $775 million (approx. $1.26 billion in 2026 dollars). According to Gemini, the total lifetime revenue from all the games from 2007 onwards (not sure if EA saw 100% of Mass Effect's revenue) would have been $2.7B–$3.1B adjusted to 2026 dollars. Note, that isn't profit and doesn't include any of the ongoing expenses they've seen from keeping the studio up and running and paying everyone's salaries. Think they made back their investment? I doubt it.
 

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I could be wrong, but I'd think that having so many flops on a resume would be toxic. There are a lot of unemployed game devs with toxic resumes right now.

From what I remember the industry is still completely fixated on "Did you ship a game?" and don't even care of the financial success.

With that said, hopefully Naughty Dog is next after InterGayLactic.
 

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good. bioware been going downhill since they decided that the reaper's ultimate plan was to make a giant human skeleton contra III boss.
 
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Much like the movie industry, creatives have always been leftist, and videogames stopped being controlled by programmers decades ago.

The problem is the corporations _used to_ say 'Hey, let's not demonize nearly half the population and block our project from not losing money' and would dial them back - that's what broke down as the 21st century progressed.

I haven't been paying too much attention, but apparently the ME4 promos showed Andromeda races, implying that 4 was a sequel to both 3 and Andromeda. I was mildly interested in seeing how they managed that, but that's the limits to my disappointment at this news.
 

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Much like the movie industry, creatives have always been leftist, and videogames stopped being controlled by programmers decades ago.

The problem is the corporations _used to_ say 'Hey, let's not demonize nearly half the population and block our project from not losing money' and would dial them back - that's what broke down as the 21st century progressed.

Social messaging has been a thing in fiction forever. The problem is a lot of these writer groups are circle jerks where no one pushes back because no one wants to be labeled as something they aren’t. And when you add hamfisted writers to the mix, you get bad storytelling because it takes a backseat to whatever message they are going for

Even outside that, you need people to tell you the idea sucks and offer better alternatives. George Lucas had some dumb ideas for Star Wars and thankfully listened to some people who said “yeah, maybe not…”
 

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Social messaging has been a thing in fiction forever. The problem is a lot of these writer groups are circle jerks where no one pushes back because no one wants to be labeled as something they aren’t. And when you add hamfisted writers to the mix, you get bad storytelling because it takes a backseat to whatever message they are going for

Even outside that, you need people to tell you the idea sucks and offer better alternatives. George Lucas had some dumb ideas for Star Wars and thankfully listened to some people who said “yeah, maybe not…”
in the past tho a lot of moralizing/didacticism/social messaging they would at LEAST pretend it was within the context of the story. "maybe robots are self aware enough that we should treat them better" , "maybe we can try something besides just war", "maybe man is the true monster".

now they go LOOK ITS LITERALLY THE GAY FLAG, or "THIS GUY SAYS HE"S TRANS AND NEEDS TO BE CALLEX XIR", "LOOK AT THIS GUY WHO LOOKS LIKE TRUMP SO BAD', "ARN"T WHITE PEOPLE AWFUL.

so its not even a critique of them putting social messaging in. it's a 1-2 punch of them being shitty at it, and their messaging being retarded and backward.

i'm glad bioware is dead they sit on a massive dick. only that's what they want. so in this instance they can sit on something less pleasurable. maybe a cactus, or one of those bush trimmers
 

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good. bioware been going downhill since they decided that the reaper's ultimate plan was to make a giant human skeleton contra III boss.

And much like said Contra III boss, Bioware ended up killing themselves through bad decisions.
 

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Much like the movie industry, creatives have always been leftist, and videogames stopped being controlled by programmers decades ago.

The problem is the corporations _used to_ say 'Hey, let's not demonize nearly half the population and block our project from not losing money' and would dial them back - that's what broke down as the 21st century progressed.

I haven't been paying too much attention, but apparently the ME4 promos showed Andromeda races, implying that 4 was a sequel to both 3 and Andromeda. I was mildly interested in seeing how they managed that, but that's the limits to my disappointment at this news.
No, it was full of straight white nerds that liked tits and violence. This "all games are political" gay shit started when women started hiring other women.

Look at the studio pictures of CDPR from when Witcher 3 came out to the current ones? Very little chance the game isn't a girl boss, tranny filled dump where Dandelion has mysteriously turned super turbo faggot. Which is sad because Ciri is actually a girl boss but it's going to be done so ham fisted and retarded as possible.