Mikhail and Hodj's Political Thread

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TheBeagle

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Not too mention the poor bastards that are below the poverty level and live in a state that didn't expand Medicaid aren't eligible for subsidized plans and can't get Medicaid. I'm sure it's unintended but with Congress being so dysfunctional, its not going to be fixed anytime soon either. As a full time student subsisting on loans, grants, and summer internships I'm in that no-man's land of not making enough to get a subsidy and too much for Texas Medicaid. God damn I wish I could just wave a wand and live in a country that's not completely insane.
 
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Well, I guess they can't take the penalty out of my taxes since I'm not actually paying any. The ACA is a small step in the right direction, but the more I start really looking at it and see all the holes in it, the more I see it's really a pretty big steamer. Oh well, maybe by the time I'm a fucking old man this country might finally have health care figured out.
 
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400 a month for a family plan? God I'm glad I have a great plan. For the wife, daughter and me I have $98 taken out each pay period (2weeks). Low deductible plan that covers everything.

I don't know what we would have done in any other situation. When my wife was pregnant she required 2 sonograms a week because she had cholestasis. That's $4500 a week, not to mention times when we had to go to a specialist of the detected anything abnormal. 20k when she had the flu while pregnant and had to be hospitalized (that cost more than the delivery). In essence our system sucks donkey dick.
 
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I implore you to come live in the social-liberal Northern Europe - a paradise for moochers - featuring a progressive individual tax maxing out at 51.7%. Toot-toot-cough-cough-cough.
 
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ZyyzYzzy_sl said:
400 a month for a family plan? God I'm glad I have a great plan. For the wife, daughter and me I have $98 taken out each pay period (2weeks). Low deductible plan that covers everything.

I don't know what we would have done in any other situation. When my wife was pregnant she required 2 sonograms a week because she had cholestasis. That's $4500 a week, not to mention times when we had to go to a specialist of the detected anything abnormal. 20k when she had the flu while pregnant and had to be hospitalized (that cost more than the delivery). In essence our system sucks donkey dick.
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Thankful every day my wife and I had our kids in our early 20s. Her labors were less than 4 hours apiece. No complications. Kids born perfect, absolutely no medical issues, no allergies, nothing.

Not saying that to rub it in your face, just, every time I hear stories about the horrors people went through to have kids, I have to be thankful for the fact we didn't experience that.

Also, talking about lazy moochers, shit out a couple kids at 21 and 23 when you're a high school drop out and holy shit we didn't have to pay a dime to have our kids. Thank you medicare.

This is why we need single payer in this country.

And yeah, what I'm reading is that single family plans are like 400 bucks a month for the bronze plans, and then at the end of the tax year if you qualify for subsidization, then you get a check back in the mail to cover the subsidized portion. So you have to pay out before you get it back. There's no way we can afford that we both finish school. Its just no feasible.
 
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Sad thing is me and the wife are in our mid 20's and had all those complications. We essentially decided to have children after 2 years of both of us finishing masters. Sucks now we probably won't have another because the cholestasis will 99.9% happen again and the risk associated with it (placental failure) just seem too great.

If you are both fulltime students can't you get a plan through your university?
 
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Honestly i think Obama should offer a one year delay on the mandate since the website is such a clusterfuck. It would give the Republicans in the House an out to get out of this mess, and the Dems could be seen as being flexible and working towards the people's best interests in the face of circumstances out of their control while not really giving anything up to the Reps.
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Right except they're just going to do it again in a year.
 
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hodj_sl said:
The people who can least afford to have 2000 dollars garnished from their EITC and other tax returns are going to feel the pain badly because those are the same people who can't afford the monthly premiums, despite the subsidization that comes in at tax time that is supposed to reimburse them.
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Which people are those? Show your work.
 
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TheBeagle_sl said:
The website and exchanges would stay live, just give people an extra year to sign up and avoid penalties, that's all. Work out the kinks over a period of 14 months instead of two months.
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Premiums are going to go through the roof if the only Republicans signing up for insurance are their white trash base with their pre-existing beetus conditions. That's the whole point of the mandate.
 
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If I were you, I'd run away for another 6 months, and come back still butthurt you lost.
 
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