Hekotat
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I don't know for sure which way it will go, but how many good MMOs are out there or have been in the past 10 years? Zero is the correct answer, people are fiending.
Monsters and Memories (Project_N) - Old School Indie MMO
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I don't know for sure which way it will go, but how many good MMOs are out there or have been in the past 10 years? Zero is the correct answer, people are fiending.
Del
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20k people in discord just for the hell of it apparently.
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moonarchia
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Pantheon discord has 28k people in it, with 100k who bought beta access. No other $$$ needed until live (in 12 years if ever).
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Success to them would probably be any sort of profit, which wouldn't be too hard to achieve considering their development costs have been near zero.
Success to me would be something like an average of 5-10k subs for the first year so that they could get some of the guys working on it paid enough to start working full time and churn out development more quickly.
fwiw, I know at least 5 friends that don't watch the MnM stream, aren't on the discord, haven't kept up with the development at all but will 100% sub and play at launch. They all played EQ 25 years ago, played EQ emulated servers for 10+ yrs and have been waiting for something new. There's so many people like that; they will play at launch but don't give a shit about development until then.
edit: and these are personal, real life friends. Not EQ friends
edit: and these are personal, real life friends. Not EQ friends
TheBeagle
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I ain't playing these stress tests but will definitely toss them a one month sub when it gets to early release and check it out. I also dont do discord either. Haven't paid an MMO sub since the first year WoW released, so if there's a few more dudes out there like me it might do a little better than the naysayers think.
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i think the devs, respectively, need a taste of some real world degens... gonna log and start training people, start spamming opinions like its barrens chat, start selling my camp as i afk it
Kirun
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It'll "sell" just fine. All it takes is Asmon, Cohh, or some other boomer influencer to play it for 48 hours while their chat spams copypasta about how it's "bringing MMOs back." Box sales will spike, the subreddit/Discord will declare victory, and then everyone will quietly log off once they realize half the "hardcore challenge" is waiting for mana to regen and corpse-running naked through fog.
That's the dirty secret of these nostalgia-driven projects. They can buy hype, but they can't buy staying power. You'll get your dopamine hit of "look how immersive this is!" until the third night of walking thirty minutes back to camp because your group wiped in a tunnel. Then reality sets in: it's not the game that's hard, it's the patience required to tolerate it.
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Pretty much, I lead the top guild of our EQ server for years and even in PoP we were still locking shit down in Luclin just to dick over other guilds and sell loot.
moonarchia
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Yup. That's why I was showing the Pantheon data. They are looking to cash in on the same niche, and they had a huge EA splash, and 3 months later they were tanking, and now 10 months later are seeing daily highs at <10% of what they had during the rush. MnM with their sub for beta are going to fall off harder and faster.
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I’d absolutely charge a ‘box price’ for EA. Theres a certain amount of MMO players who just buy everything, and why not cash in?
moonarchia
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Oh yeah, there is a market, but not for poopsocking games. People will give anything a try, but once they realize they aren't going to get to enjoy dungeons and raids properly they are going to bail. If content isn't pumped out regularly and often, same thing.