Monsters and Memories (Project_N) - Old School Indie MMO

Rhanyn said:

Pretty sure staves sell for more than 50c, not 100% on cracked, but fairly certain those are the ones I'm thinking. I basically had it down to where if something didn't sell for more than 50c, it wasn't worth looting instead of a myconid part since 4 nets 2 silver. Going to try to get into a wererat group tonight and start farming some NH faction. That or roll something that gets SoW and try that out. It's a tough decision. SK with no run speed wasn't bad at first, you don't know what you are missing. It's like wearing a condom, if that's all you've ever had, it's great.... right up until that first experience without one and then you never want to wear one again. I think my DE SK might suck dick for SoW after having it randomly tossed on me in passing.

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Cracked start at 5s if sold to the right vendor and only go up as they increase in cracked staff type (Fine, Elder, etc.).

Oh my merch showed up. The mousepad is the squishy type. Looks nice though. And used the wineglass to day drink and grind.

Araxen said:

Money is so bad my group is rolling on cracked staves.

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Granted I haven't played in over a year, but that oasis pirate(?) camp in the zone north of NH would drop silver coin things and cracked staves which both sold for the same amount. But yeah, that was alpha. No clue if that's still a thing.

Glad people are enjoying it. Game just really wasn't for me, but have been keeping tabs on this thread for EA.

oh yeah forgot about the weird ceramic dealies. Cracked staves are much more rare than they used to be. Haven't tried those bandit camps yet.

Hekotat said:

Cracked start at 5s if sold to the right vendor and only go up as they increase in cracked staff type (Fine, Elder, etc.).

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Dunno how many cracked staves I let rot (in the open tests) until someone asked if I had just given one to my mage pet...

Also, during the open test I leveled my SK/Shaman to 8 - 10, 2+ years ago, I couldn't afford spells, let alone bags (not sure I ever had 100% of spells available in my book, on any toon). I don't think I had every bag slot filled until I farmed the cloth myself to make them.

I think the Devs are worried about the economy and swung the pendulum in a conservative shift for launch.

Best example I see is that they apparently nerfed Wolf Blood in the elf starter area, which had been around literally up til the end of beta selling for 80c as an uncommon/rare drop. I really can’t imagine just randomly nerfing that without testing beforehand. I can maybe see nerfing those beetle eyes in underdocks since that area had only been out for a week or so before launch.

Not personally a fan of their “well the people who just grind mobs cant afford their spells but if you grind… money… in between grinding mobs then it’s working as intended!”

Last one I'll announce here for awhile: Release v0.0.3 · Noodle-face/mnm-cartographer

Appreciate any feedback. This has an experimental 'hand drawn' option, but it only really works in Shaded Dunes. My next major release will hand draw all maps if the user wants. This also supports multiple floors.

After this I want to work on starting to collect markers and finding a way to host it. Importantly, I want to start marking useful quest locations.

Noodleface said:

Werd thanks. To get any better resolution on these will require people actually seeing how accurate the maps are

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i'll try to scribble some notes on it at some point and i'll toss it back.

My wife and I drove across 3 states to go to two different concerts that last weekend so I am a little behind the curve.

Anyway, we got back yesterday afternoon and I decided to give the EA a shot.

I started as Rogue, learned that soloing is definitely possible, but it's ass. So, I decided to play another character to funnel resources to my Rogue.

I started a Wood Elf Ranger, now level 9.5 shitting on everything I come across. I've been very slow and deliberate. I look up literally everything I loot and I have been incredibly surprised at how useful/valuable much of it has been. The repeatable quests are a massive source of cash. Also, I only sell items to vendors that give me good value.

At 9, I have a 10 slot backpack and a full compliment of 8 slot pouches, all my spells, and 62 silver.

P.S. I don't know if bandaging mid-fight is intended, but it has been an absolute godsend for me.

Noodleface said:

Wonder if that's windows exclusive because on Linux I've been monitoring my usage with no spikes

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I'm on linux as well. I have noticed it seems to happen in Underdocks for me, I think it only happened in EW once after 20+ hours there, so I think it's somewhat rare. I would help with a bug report, but I literally have no clue what is causing it.

If there's a population spike on Trem you can thank Cohh for that.

Also, I got SoW and thorns on my druid so I'm gamin now. Don't play enchanter solo unless you hate yourself.

Siliconemelons said:

I was once again told by morons that, there is no lighting problem in OOC and to “go back to wow”?!? lol I haven’t been on wow in like a decade.

Sorry not sorry.. I hope that streamer guy logged on and was at midnight. Could not see anything and logged off. Then perhaps the devs would listen.

There is a cave, no “light sources” or even “glowing jizz” that seems all over AV - one half is “seeable” the other black abandon …

As you said.. it seems everything has a manual light setting, and its jacked up

As I said in beta, its on purpose its completely intentional and is a 400% wrong bad choice.

even in AV its like “we know everyone will have Ultravision… and we HAVE TO HAVE darkness, for immersion!!! so screw em make it black!”

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First EQ char, and the one I kept on with.
- Create mage, figure STR and charisma were good stats. Has a staff and need to talk to people.... (didn't know DnD or any fantasy game really)
- Was human
- Zone in, press wrong button to type, hit trainer. Die
- Respawn at gates at freeport
- Start running around, dark everywhere, can't see shit.

Later on someone gave me some gem or whatnot that gave infravision or somesuch, was the most magical thing ever. I loved it. When WoW came around I remember asking in OOC "Why is everything fucking purple at night, where is the night!?"

That said, while I am actually in favor of "darkness", there is a balance to be had there. Human in EQ isn't what I would model the default setting to be, especially in the overworld. However, having the ability, at least in the lighting engine, to make dark caves and areas where you do need a lightsource is good. Elden Ring does it well. You're never blind running around in the open areas, but there are places that get close to pitch black without a direct light source. However, I think those zones/areas should be mitigated by torches, fires and the likes. Not by "infravision" or "ultravision" tied to races, so those races actually never get to experience those dark and scarier areas.

Going into a dungeon and suddenly falling in somewhere and it is pitch black (for all races) = scary if darkness is not the default of how the world really is. You go "OH NO! Everything is dark, this is bad. Where am I! I need some light!". That is good design.

"Making it it "Oh no.... It's night time again, time to adjust gamma" is just annoying.

So much ultravison, so much wow...

There is a ledge in-front of me

oh yeah...this is better....




ON a funny side note..


At this location, the exit from the main city to...whereever I am with these elementals and floating skulls... the city guard will buff my pet with HP buff, resistance, SoW and a 15pt damage shield lol

An elementalist came by, they didnt buff their pet :-( may be something odd with SK pet? I am warmly con.

So - if your a SK here, and can get in the city, see if they will buff your pet- then just send him out to kill these elemental, the dmg shield does the work.

Was excited to find a new grind for level 10..but now at 11 they are many green... sad... anyone know a good place for 11-13ish? I am very tempted to just jump up to UD and faction. But later today I want to group in BM just to see if there is something to that place.

So I'm level 8.5 in UD, haven't had a lot of time to play but that's ok. What's a solid levelling route here? I'm pretty comfortable killing skellies and myconids, but there's not a ton of money in that.

I'm pretty sure I've spent more time mapping the game than playing

Had a caves irem group last night killing level 25 Skari, 6 man group the split was 9-11 copper. 1 level 24 spell costs 42 silver, the math ain’t mathing.

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how long did the grind take? was it literally like 24 hours played or like an afternoon?

what method did you use?

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High probability of moving to UD to faction once I play in BM a little more - I am 11 currently.

Hatorade said:

Had a caves irem group last night killing level 25 Skari, 6 man group the split was 9-11 copper. 1 level 24 spell costs 42 silver, the math ain’t mathing.

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In (beta) Fallen Pass- soloing, in the 23-28 level range, my loot was ~1s a kill in coin, and items that sold to the nearby shady for 50ish copper - if taken to town, 1 silverish

Noodleface said:

So I'm level 8.5 in UD, haven't had a lot of time to play but that's ok. What's a solid levelling route here? I'm pretty comfortable killing skellies and myconids, but there's not a ton of money in that.

I'm pretty sure I've spent more time mapping the game than playing

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Rafter caves at that level maybe. Probably cramped though.

bolok said:

Rafter caves at that level maybe. Probably cramped though.

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I'll check it out. I haven't left the lower level yet lol

Noodleface said:

I'll check it out. I haven't left the lower level yet lol

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Mining picks drop there. So if you can setup camp can make some cash anyway. Also crystals and overseer heads if you have one of those quests.