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Driving a Ferrari gto250 is a great experience also, it would be awesome if more people could enjoy that.
Though shit.
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Though shit.
AFAIK the way its worded it gets around the sorcery timing. Its part of the Queller trigger resolving, so if the spell owner chooses to cast the spell, it'd go on the stack immediately after, regardless of what type of spell.
If it was worded as "until end of turn" or "as long as blah blah" then I'm pretty sure the spell timing does matter.
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Dear Hasbro,
I enjoy one of your products a great deal and while I understand you are a game and toy company a big part of my enjoyment of this product comes from other people being kept away and a big part of my self-identity is tied to being on the inside of this exclusion rather than the outside.
Please perpetuate this forever,
Punko
ronne
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There also are more copies of Vintage staples available than there are some of the Legacy cards, but a lot of that probably has to do mostly with the recent events.
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the legacy staples that got bought out are popular in EDH also, which is very much alive
lets just ignore that for the convenience of the argument being made by the "legacy is dead" people here
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I guess I'll have my fries without salt today, I can read your post a couple of times
Maybe they'll reprint IE or CE edition in some form, that way you can enjoy the older formats also.
Until then, I expect some to keep claiming a format is dead because they can't play it.
Its fine, I look forward to italian Tabernacles hitting 1k$ and you playing with purple bordered versions.
Win-Win!
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Eh. Vintage events are consistently bigger every year. Eternal Weekend is basically a vintage convention. We run sanctioned vintage at my local shop once a month for basically bragging rights as prizes (random foreign stuff, usually $20-40 range), and consistently get 12-15 powered decks plus a smattering of unpowered stuff like eldrazi or hatebears.
Yeah, it's a small crowd. It's not cheap to play. But it isn't dead. Christ, themanadrain.com just changed owners and is thriving, relatively speaking.
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I didn't say Legacy is dead. I said in a few years Legacy would be dead. The long term plan by WotC is to just let you all live on your own little island forever with minimal support and wait for Modern to take it's place. For black swans you've got a breakthrough in counterfeit card quality, a shake-up at Hasbro leading to a reverse of reserved list policy, or these targeted buyouts eventually forcing action.
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The same thing was said in 2013. And 2011. And even earlier. I remember being 16 and thinking "man, why is Psionic Blast so expensive? At some point people are going to buy up all the $5 copies and price the game out of reach for kids like me."
Prices rise periodically. The game expands, and more players want the old cards. They're definitely changing hands regularly. I see it practically every weekend.
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I think I've posted this, but why would Legacy die "in a few years", while Vintage is still going strong?
You keep posting about "excluded" and whatnot, seems there is some other issue here.
Do you go into the "what car do you own" thread and tell people their expensive cars are about to break down?
Seriously keep it together pal.
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I'm perfectly fine with them leaving legacy and vintage just as they are now. We get plenty of support.
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This really.
Our LGS gained a new player last year, a russian post-doctorate student working on some kind of healthcare shit.. in a few years that guy is going to have a solid income, and he'll just buy shit at whatever its priced at.
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Tranny Chaser
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So what is your point?
Economical reality an issue?
Sorry again.
Try downvoting me again, perhaps it will help!
I'm social like that. I even upvoted you!
If you think the format will die, play fucking proxies at your kitchen-table, but stop being frustrated about reality as it is. There is no denying that legacy prices will grow towards vintage prices, and there is a whole lot of room for legacy to catch up to vintage, until the price increases reduce the legacy audience to the size of the current vintage audience, which still is alive and playing.
You can even proxy vintage, which is the most fun format, and since its not being played competitively according to you, a 0.003$ proxy is as good as anything, right?
Jealous people are never happy.
Economical reality an issue?
Sorry again.
Try downvoting me again, perhaps it will help!
If you think the format will die, play fucking proxies at your kitchen-table, but stop being frustrated about reality as it is. There is no denying that legacy prices will grow towards vintage prices, and there is a whole lot of room for legacy to catch up to vintage, until the price increases reduce the legacy audience to the size of the current vintage audience, which still is alive and playing.
You can even proxy vintage, which is the most fun format, and since its not being played competitively according to you, a 0.003$ proxy is as good as anything, right?
Jealous people are never happy.
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Guys it's okay. They gained one new possible vintage player last year who will be able to actually buy worthwhile cards in just a few years!
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Indeed, when at a 50 player LGS, gaining 1 new Vintage player / year, is pretty solid!
There certainly hasn't been anyone selling out
Thread is pretty entertaining, thx guys
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I mean if vintage is dead and legacy is dying, why not proxy the expensive cards?
Suits every goal, except competitive, and since dead / dying formats don't have competitive games ..?
Someone elaborate, I'm not understanding the problem here.
Suits every goal, except competitive, and since dead / dying formats don't have competitive games ..?
Someone elaborate, I'm not understanding the problem here.
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Everyone I know that plays those formats uses proxies. Putting a deck together takes time so there's no reason to not proxy up what you want to build and start playing with it the first afternoon.
WotC says proxies are a no-go and doesn't even want stores running events in which they are allowed.
WotC says proxies are a no-go and doesn't even want stores running events in which they are allowed.