NBA 2019-2020 Season: Kawhi Saved Us

Jozu said:

And Luka could end up a better player at the end of his career than Jerry West, Karl Malone, Dirk Nowitzki and at least a couple others. Esp if he wins a title.

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So you're saying Luka could maybe challenge Nowitzki for a spot in the top 20 of all time?

The only thing keeping Duncan in the Top 20 is his ring count. Period. I’d take 21 year-old Luka over 21 year-old Duncan every single day.

Jozu said:

Fair enough. Jordan had a sensational rookie year, Johnson won a title as a rookie, playing center in the finals to boot.

Im just saying, Luka is the most sensational young player since LeBron. Id take Luka over Zion, Ja Morant, and every other player to come in the league since LeBron. AD is dominant but even then I'd rather build with Doncic.

And Luka could end up a better player at the end of his career than Jerry West, Karl Malone, Dirk Nowitzki and at least a couple others. Esp if he wins a title.

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Now? Oh hell yes, he's the best of the young guns hands down! It's kind of not even close outside Morant. Zion is over rated IMO. There are more sensational players, but none as solid as Luka. I just don't see him staying that way. My biggest beef is, people keep saying he's only going to get better as he learns the little intricacies of the game. True enough. BUT what they are not saying is he's not going to get quicker, he's not going to get faster, where as let's say Ja Morant probably will. Luka is not built that way. Great news is that his game doesn't require it. Like Harden. So I think it's a wash. The Ja Morants will learn the game as well, and probably get faster and quicker, and slowly pull away. Mostly on the defensive side TBH. BUT to be honest the Ja Morants break down hard, and when they do, their game is pretty much gone. Think Iverson, Payton, Derrick Rose etc...So we shall see who is better in the long run.

I think he will be a top 50 player no doubt if he stays pat. Being closer to 25 than 50 obviously. Some of those top 50 are suspect on most lists.

Kaines said:

The only thing keeping Duncan in the Top 20 is his ring count. Period. I’d take 21 year-old Luka over 21 year-old Duncan every single day.

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Agreed on ring count keeping him top 20, but that is pretty much all that counts for separating all stars. I'd take 21 Y.O Luka over Duncan also.

Fucks sake...

Good chance Zion flames out from injuries I think.








If you watch the NBA you hate America

Sebudai said:

Good chance Zion flames out from injuries I think.








If you watch the NBA you hate America

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more like bad cholesterol

Kaines said:

The only thing keeping Duncan in the Top 20 is his ring count. Period. I’d take 21 year-old Luka over 21 year-old Duncan every single day.

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Totally discounting his defensive impact and ignoring Lukas lack of it

Sebudai said:

If you watch the NBA you hate America

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The names on the jerseys are extremely dumb but nothing else has been eyeroll-worthy. The shit in China is sketchy but that's also like...every American company.

Jozu said:

Is Luca a better player than LeBron was at 20, 21 years old? I say yes.

Better than Durant? I say yes.

Better than Jordan? The stats say yes.

Better than basically everyone who has ever played basketball? Maybe. He is almost averaging 30 8 9 for his career. He is hitting almost 3 threes a game, making only 32% of them, but it allows him to still space the floor at least. And he JUST turned 21.

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This is definitely a great comparison since all these players played in the same era with the same rules. I can tell you totally factored that in when comparing stat lines.

Alex said:

The names on the jerseys are extremely dumb but nothing else has been eyeroll-worthy. The shit in China is sketchy but that's also like...every American company.

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Does every American company lecture you incessantly about racism and oppression?

American companies need to at least start decoupling from China. The NBA product is profitable and exists just fine without money from the CCP. Again, this is the equivalent of being in bed with Nazi Germany (holocaust and all).

DickTrickle said:

This is definitely a great comparison since all these players played in the same era with the same rules. I can tell you totally factored that in when comparing stat lines.

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lol? You act like Jordan was playing in the 60's or some shit. Yea late 80's ball was more physical, but comparing Jordan to modern day players isnt that much of a stretch. The biggest difference was the hand check elimination, other than that the only real difference is the quality of players and athleticism etc.

Sebudai said:

Does every American company lecture you incessantly about racism and oppression?

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Beyond the big ass "BLACK LIVES MATTER" on the court I haven't heard any racism rhetoric. I've only watched 4-5 games but it's been business as usual. Lotta talk about "the bubble" and COVID bullshit though.

Alex said:

Beyond the big ass "BLACK LIVES MATTER" on the court I haven't heard any racism rhetoric. I've only watched 4-5 games but it's been business as usual. Lotta talk about "the bubble" and COVID bullshit though.

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Maybe they toned it down after their ratings shit the bed. I wouldn't know, I'm not watching because I love my country.

Jozu said:

lol? You act like Jordan was playing in the 60's or some shit. Yea late 80's ball was more physical, but comparing Jordan to modern day players isnt that much of a stretch. The biggest difference was the hand check elimination, other than that the only real difference is the quality of players and athleticism etc.

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LOL. How about that little thing called zone defense? Come on man, think this stuff through.

Brahma said:

LOL. How about that little thing called zone defense? Come on man, think this stuff through.

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Modern help defense and the change in illegal defense aren't a thing sir. We all know that whatever era you prefer is the best and has the best players and anyone from that era would dominate every other era, because unlike every single other sport there's no actual progression.