NBA 2019-2020 Season: Kawhi Saved Us

Chris Paul is an epic-level player. Never lost a Finals.

At least zzeris understands. There is a difference between perception and reality. I never said its fair, just simply, if he loses this Finals, compared to winning it, I believe it has a huge impact on the narrative of his legacy.

Fuck Lebron. I'll hate on him for any reason, regardless of it making sense or not

Jozu said:

At least zzeris understands. There is a difference between perception and reality. I never said its fair, just simply, if he loses this Finals, compared to winning it, I believe it has a huge impact on the narrative of his legacy.

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So, you were in no way expressing your opinion of it at all? That's a useful post. Maybe you should just link to someone else next time.

Lo and behold, exactly what I was talking about. Its not about my opinion, its simply how shit works.

Everything Stephen A. said is true though, and he doesn't go far enough tbh.

Lebron made 7 straight finals by - banding together with another top 5 player and top 20 player in his own conference, creating a legit superteam while almost all competition in the East was gutted. Then when his super teammates were wearing down after 4 years he went back to Cle after they had gotten insanely lucky in the draft to collect enough assets to compete with him back. Bottom line - two superteams he made dominating a weak east for 7 years. Of course he made the finals over and over.

His finals appearances are still impressive, but not as impressive when you look at the way he got here. So then you have to just look at finals wins. He has 3, and 2 of those could have easily gone either way. Not exactly a convincing argument for greatness on the biggest stage.

Very relevant to the above convo:

Ah, yes, Stephen Smith, that reasoned thinker. But thanks for actually posting the opinion that you say you don't profess instead of just regurgitating it in a post.

What the fuck is so hard to understand about Lebrons legacy being tarnished if he loses this Finals to his former team whom he is favored to beat?

It doesnt matter if its Stephen A Smith saying it, its still fucking true. Wow. You are an idiot Dick Trickle.

Jozu said:

What the fuck is so hard to understand about Lebrons legacy being tarnished if he loses this Finals to his former team whom he is favored to beat?

It doesnt matter if its Stephen A Smith saying it, its still fucking true. Wow. You are an idiot Dick Trickle.

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Would it be less tarnished if he lost in an earlier round this year? Can you answer that?

Not winning more championships is what affects his legacy, not when he loses. Simpletons like you put an extra emphasis on finals losses being bad for some illogical reason.

Also, this former team argument is dumb when the heat looks nothing like when he left. Spoelstra is the only real constant.

Edit: by the way, thanks for finally admitting it is your actual opinion.

DickTrickle said:

Would it be less tarnished if he lost in an earlier round this year? Can you answer that?

Not winning more championships is what affects his legacy, not when he loses. Simpletons like you put an extra emphasis on finals losses being bad for some illogical reason.

Also, this former team argument is dumb when the heat looks nothing like when he left. Spoelstra is the only real constant.

Edit: by the way, thanks for finally admitting it is your actual opinion.

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Obviously losing to Denver would have been much better for his Legacy. Just like if Jordan had won against the Pistons earlier and then lost in the finals that would have been much worse than what actually happened.

Jozu said:

What the fuck is so hard to understand about Lebrons legacy being tarnished if he loses this Finals to his former team whom he is favored to beat?

It doesnt matter if its Stephen A Smith saying it, its still fucking true. Wow. You are an idiot Dick Trickle.

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Idiotic cliches are still idiotic, no matter how many morons parrot it

I know a lot of people knock Lebron for switching teams, but if he does win another championship, I think on some level it's impressive to win one with three different teams. While he's a gravitational force that often gets his way, that's still a lot of change and adjusting. I'm not sure there's been a lot of players who've won multiple championships with different teams while still being the top player.

On a side note, how can you not root for this Heat team? Definitely a "sum is more than the parts" team.

DickTrickle said:

I know a lot of people knock Lebron for switching teams, but if he does win another championship, I think on some level it's impressive to win one with three different teams. While he's a gravitational force that often gets his way, that's still a lot of change and adjusting. I'm not sure there's been a lot of players who've won multiple championships with different teams while still being the top player.

On a side note, how can you not root for this Heat team? Definitely a "sum is more than the parts" team.

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I noticed Rude gave you faggotry on every single one of your comments. I don't know what the smoke is but that shit gave me a good laugh.

Blitz said:

If you watched The Last Dance, and still think anyone else, especially LBJ, is in the same category as Michael... I feel for you.

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I wouldn't use the word "especially" because no other player really comes close. Say what you will about LBJ, but no matter how you cut it I think it's clear he's cemented in #2. And preemptive fuck you to people who try to come here talking about Bill Russell. God Boston fans can be the worst.

Kobe too. Inefficient ass shooting. Also always needed superstar help. Dude was in top 10 eFG% like two years or something. Definition of volume shooter.

babo said:

I noticed Rude gave you faggotry on every single one of your comments. I don't know what the smoke is but that shit gave me a good laugh.

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I feel like I said something one time and he's been obsessed with me ever since. I don't even remember what the interaction was.

This series is a sweep. Dragic injured, Bam injured, and Butler injured. Unfortunate, as I would love to watch the Lakers lose. You cant contain Davis without those three.