NFL 2016 Offseason Thread - Fins' Quest to Defend Their Crown

Browns would have to make a draft-day trade. Maybe some teams out there have Goff >>> Wentz. They'd have to field offers from those teams assuming the Rams go Wentz #1. But if the Rams go Goff those teams would be boned. #2 has far less value than #1.

Famm_sl said:

It would seem like a no brainer, the wild card here is Ramsey for them. Although a different position, Weddle is gone and they might want that backfield playmaker.

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That's the wildcard. I'm hoping for them to pick Tunsil in this scenario because I would love for the Cowboys to pick Ramsey and pair him up with Jones and solidify the safety position for the next four years.

If both QBs and Ramsey are off the board I bet Dallas moves back. General consensus is that they don't view Bosa as being worthy of a #4 pick and I don't see them picking Elliot at that spot either.

Shit, two more weeks before the draft.

Seems like Bosa will either be a sleeper who people are going to whiff on taking or a bust that someone reached for. Maybe some in between. Which means he's probably coming to us and will be a disappointment.

I am leery of Bosa the same way I have been about anything out of Alabama and now Ohio State. Teams that overloaded with recruits tend to have force multipliers due to that depth.

Seeing Khalil Mack playing for Buffalo and dominating Ohio State with no other talent around him is an easy evaluation. Bama's secondary guys have been massively overhyped and drafted in recent years due to sitting back and reaping the benefits of a dominant front 7. I think the same thing is happening now at OSU. Bosa reminds me more of Andy Katzenmoyer than JJ Watt.

Famm_sl said:

Seems like Bosa will either be a sleeper who people are going to whiff on taking or a bust that someone reached for. Maybe some in between.

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So he'll either be underrated, a bust, or somewhere in between (an accurate pick). Phew, that's a bold claim you've made, sir!

I saidmaybe someinbetween. I don't mean underrated I mean he's possible top of the draft talent. Point being that of all the projected top five guys he seems like the biggest risk. As a top ten, sure snatch him up, at worst you have a servicable rotation guy for the front seven. But as your coveted high pick there seems to be a lot of hesitation, unless that's smokescreens.

Genjiro_sl said:

I am leery of Bosa the same way I have been about anything out of Alabama and now Ohio State. Teams that overloaded with recruits tend to have force multipliers due to that depth.

Seeing Khalil Mack playing for Buffalo and dominating Ohio State with no other talent around him is an easy evaluation. Bama's secondary guys have been massively overhyped and drafted in recent years due to sitting back and reaping the benefits of a dominant front 7. I think the same thing is happening now at OSU. Bosa reminds me more of Andy Katzenmoyer than JJ Watt.

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I'm an OSU hater but Bosa is pretty legit. He was often a double team focus and still got through. Anytime he was facing just a tackle he'd manhandle the guy.

We'll see. Vernon Gholston was someone OSU fans were touting as the next LT, and we know how his career played out. Katzenmoyer, AJ Hawk, the list of busts out of THE Ohio State University goes on and on.

Also, reports from "insiders" is that Goff is the Rams guy. Which makes sense. They likely tried to deal with the Browns first as the Titans are not taking a QB, found out Goff was their guy, and knew they had to move all the way up and leapfrog them.

I had a strong feeling Gholston would bust out. He was undersized for DE and too slow to play LB. He could have been a Freeny and try to get by on one move but he wasn't even good enough at that. I don't know if I'd consider Hawk a "bust." He never lived up to his draft position but he's had a long and decent career in the NFL.

I still feel like the Titans should have gotten a little more. Given what we gave up in 2012 to move up from #6 to #2 (essentially swapping picks in the 1st, but giving up a 2nd and two more 1sts), I figured going up from #15 to #1 would cost more than what the Rams are giving up (swapping picks in the 1st, two 2nd's and a 3rd, a 1st and a 3rd). Don't get me wrong, it's still a fucking haul and even more than we gave up, but given how big of a jump they were moving up I figured they'd have to give up some 2018 picks as well. Titans hit the jackpot.

Genjiro_sl said:

Also, reports from "insiders" is that Goff is the Rams guy. Which makes sense. They likely tried to deal with the Browns first as the Titans are not taking a QB, found out Goff was their guy, and knew they had to move all the way up and leapfrog them.

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Insider vs Insider.

Rams Carson Wentz at No. 1 in NFL draft | ProFootballTalk

Also for how incompetent the Browns are they wouldn't reveal their hand on who they prefer

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This is fun

There goes my conspiracy theory of the Rams trading with the Cowboys as payment to help facilitate the move to LA

Fucking hell. This is exactly why you don't fucking keep Jeff Fisher just because you're moving the god damn franchise. In ANY other situation this guy would have been shit canned already and now he's just destroyed this teams next 2 drafts and for what?

WHO THE FUCK IS EITHER ROOKIE GOING TO THROW TO? We have no TE, we have no #1 receiver. They dropped Chris Long, Laurinatis, Janoris Jenkins, (and obviously) Jared Cook.

Now, maybe those guys were mostly overrated for how much they're being paid but how to we replace any depth for their spots with no draft picks?

This also means our #3 draft pick last year was a fucking waste.

Why the fuck would you let Fisher do this? What has he shown he knows about Quarterbacks or Offense? FUCK FUCK FUCK.

It would be glorious if Stan came out and fired Fisher before the draft, but that's just my wet dream at this point.

Whos worse this upcoming season Niners or Rams?

After all these years, Jeff Fisher finally has the Titans on the right track

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best reddit comment.

Jozu_sl said:

Whos worse this upcoming season Niners or Rams?

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Wait a second, I think I've seen this movie. Ok, here we go. Rams trade the #1 pick to the Niners and get DOUBLE the hall! YES YES, they were fucking geniuses!!!

Insider wars indeed. Schefter says its Goff.

Rams got completely raped. Two 2nds a first next year and two thirds. Fucking tards.

Daezuel_sl said:

Wait a second, I think I've seen this movie. Ok, here we go. Rams trade the #1 pick to the Niners and get DOUBLE the hall! YES YES, they were fucking geniuses!!!

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lol.

not that the odds are in their favor but if this QB turns out to be legit and makes it to top 5 at the position, nobody will care what they gave up today.