NFL 2019 Season: It's Tricky!

Hoss said:

Sure bro. And in 1976 America could say we had been a nation for 2 centuries. But that's not the way the phrase was being used. He said his coaching tenure spanned 2 decades. That would be like America trying to say in 1900 that our independence had spanned 3 centuries. No it hasn't because The centuries and THE decades are counts that started at 1 not 0. In 1901 the statement would be correct. In 2021 his statement about Garrett would be correct.

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It's actually a lot trickier than you're thinking, because #1, Garrett started out an interim head coach part of the way through the 2010 season. He wasn't technically named head coach without the interim title until January 2011.

Now, there's also the way we describe certain decades (or even centuries). Your point about 1900 v 1901 is an interesting one...because while "the 20th century" is considered 1901-2000, that is different from "the 1900's" which is 1900-1999.

20th century - Wikipedia

The 20th (twentieth) century was a century that began on January 1, 1901[1] and ended on December 31, 2000.[2] It was the tenth and final century of the 2nd millennium. Strictly speaking, it is distinct from the century known as the 1900s which began on January 1, 1900, and ended on December 31, 1999.

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So...if we're really splitting hairs here, if the guy with the tweet considered "Interim" as no different than just being officially head coach, Garrett was head coach for at least part of every single year in the 2010's decade (2010-2019)...and the 2020's decade would have began yesterday with him still "technically" head coach of the team, despite the fact he technically isn't under contract for next season (since his contract I believe expires Jan 14th). But if that shit is ignored, you could claim he was head coach throughout the 2010's and is now entering the 2020's still head coach.

TLDR: This is a stupid argument, even the wiki for the word century notes there is Strict Usage and General Usage of the term, which is going to be true for decades as well. Also what the fuck does Garrett have on Jones to be getting a THIRD MEETING after this season.

Bubbles said:

who else misses Thursday Night Football? Be honest now

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I PVR'd the Texans Titans games so i could watch it tonight and get my Thursday fix.

Hoping the Texans get wreaked this weekend !

Are we really going to spend multiple pages arguing the difference between “A decade” and “the decade of”???

Kaines said:

Are we really going to spend multiple pages arguing the difference between “A decade” and “the decade of”???

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I hope not. Hoss needs to remember who said "spanned" and in relation to what exactly, too.

Otherwise I just love the fact we're still talking about Jason Garrett still as a potential head coach for the Dallas Cowboys going forward.

Merrith said:

Otherwise I just love the fact we're still talking about Jason Garrett still as a potential head coach for the Dallas Cowboys going forward.

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Chanur said:

I think he's a good coach. You could have done a lot worse.

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This is where I'm at. Even people who might be down on him as a head coach, he or candidates of his caliber could easily just laugh at the Redskins given the state of the org over the last X years. Even if he doesn't end up a long term answer, we easily could have ended up with much worse.

Merrith said:

I'll say this, Rivera hitting mostly all the right notes in his press conference. Granted, the honeymoon phase will last awhile, and I want to see how all the front office stuff shakes out before the draft.

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Let's play a fun game. It's called in 9 years, how many winning seasons did Ron Rivera have?

Garrett...out!

Rengak said:

Let's play a fun game. It's called in 9 years, how many winning seasons did Ron Rivera have?

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3. Coach of the year twice, overall winning record, Super Bowl Appearance. He also had seasons where a 6-2 start was ruined by injuries, etc. I think it's fair to say he had some success there, and also some rougher seasons.

Hoss said:

Do you mean that I'm supposed to know who Kevin Clark is, or are you talking about me saying spanned because I couldn't remember his exact words? He said enters his second decade as head coach. There's no context in which that is correct unless you subscribe to the whack ass theory that you can define a named decade to start whenever the fuck you want. I already explained why that's idiotic. He was head coach for 9.5 years. It was entirely in one decade because this is the last year of The Decade. Kevin was trying to pump up his numbers. I'm surprised he didn't add "and only lost 70 games"

What else are we gunna post about?

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yes, because you couldn't remember his last words. He only said entering a 2nd decade (I wasn't sure if you were thinking he was claiming spanned), which since Garret had been head coach for at least part of all 10 seasons of the 2010's (no, 2020 is not part of the 2010's), and he ignore the interim shit it was clearly a humorous play that he was technically entering the 2020's as head coach since his contract ran until Jan 14th.

Silly and dumb thing to point out by him? Yeah, but for someone trying to make a weak joke at the turn of the year with the technicalities, I get it.

Sounds like Garrett is going to be out, not sure if officially confirmed?

Zzen said:

Garrett...out!

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Anonymous source but I'm provisionally willing to accept those in sports news, especially since this seemed inevitable.


He does have pretty good stats for such a despised coach, but playoff wins are what matter.

I just don't get how it takes 3 meetings. In all honestly that roster is just far too talented to go 8-8 this year. To not even score a TD against the Eagles in what amounts to a must win game, just sad. Maybe that theory about him being a fall back had legs, but at this point I'd figure Jerry would have been ready to move on immediately following end of the season.

Merrith said:

I just don't get how it takes 3 meetings. In all honestly that roster is just far too talented to go 8-8 this year. To not even score a TD against the Eagles in what amounts to a must win game, just sad. Maybe that theory about him being a fall back had legs, but at this point I'd figure Jerry would have been ready to move on immediately following end of the season.

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His contract was already up, I'm guessing his mind was already made up but for whatever reason he didn't want to rush into the announcement.

Gavinmad said:

His contract was already up, I'm guessing his mind was already made up but for whatever reason he didn't want to rush into the announcement.

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Now the fun begins to see who his top candidates are to replace.

Gavinmad said:

Anonymous source but I'm provisionally willing to accept those in sports news, especially since this seemed inevitable.

Cowboys to move on without Garrett, source says

Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones have decided that Jason Garrett will not be part of the organization moving forward, a source told ESPN's Ed Werder.

www.espn.com

He does have pretty good stats for such a despised coach, but playoff wins are what matter.

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What a liar, you won't fool me twice with your fake tweets!!!